Mar 08 2012, 12:53 PM
Mar 08 2012, 02:04 PM
it really sad
and kony is number 1 in International Criminal Court
and kony is number 1 in International Criminal Court
Mar 08 2012, 04:13 PM
It's annoying how many people post this video and say its such a tragedy and not realize that this has been happening for years.
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From what I've read.
Invisible Children only uses 31% of donations to actual charity.
US has already sent in troops to hunt & pursue Kony (Which kinda renders any more aid to be useless)
KONY's already on the run
Uganda and the LRA have been in peace for a while now...
Read the arguments about Invisible Children, compelling.
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From what I've read.
Invisible Children only uses 31% of donations to actual charity.
US has already sent in troops to hunt & pursue Kony (Which kinda renders any more aid to be useless)
KONY's already on the run
Uganda and the LRA have been in peace for a while now...
Read the arguments about Invisible Children, compelling.
Quote:Joseph Kony is undoubtedly a cruel man, but lets look at some fun facts around the issue and the organization Invisible Children:
The issue:
-The LRA is only 250 soldiers strong at this point.
-The LRA hasn't been in Uganda since 2006.
-Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting.
-US Africa Command has been trying to stop Kony for years, which only results in failure and retaliation from Kony.
-To get to Kony you'd have to ultimately kill some of his army...which consists of children soldiers.....
Invisible Children:
-Only 32% of money raised went to direct services (if you support the issue you may want to choose a more worthwhile charity).
-Their accountability and transparency is a 2 out of 4 stars on charity navigator.
-The group is in favor of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces.
- Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.”
Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. Educate yourselves a little bit before supporting a particular nonprofit.
Some good reads:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blo ... _blog.html
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ ... ?page=show
http://www.wrongingrights.com/2009/03/w ... ever.html/
http://chrisblattman.com/2009/03/04/visible-children/
http://allafrica.com/stories/201203080526.html
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2 ... ony/49634/
Not saying Kony isn't a horrible person. Just thought people might want the entire picture before they support an organization.
Mar 08 2012, 04:41 PM
Apple/Orange Wrote:it really sad
and kony is number 1 in International Criminal Court
Mar 08 2012, 07:12 PM
Like i actually read all the long comments .
Just stay with the simple reply hoes DAMN
Just stay with the simple reply hoes DAMN
Mar 08 2012, 09:31 PM
god damn I found something far more interesting on youtube today( hard to believe, I know!), also, they buy those stupid things like "ViewTornado" and all that shit that will get you countless amount of views for your video, nothing more really.
Mar 09 2012, 09:07 AM
joker8baller Wrote:It's annoying how many people post this video and say its such a tragedy and not realize that this has been happening for years.
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From what I've read.
Invisible Children only uses 31% of donations to actual charity.
US has already sent in troops to hunt & pursue Kony (Which kinda renders any more aid to be useless)
KONY's already on the run
Uganda and the LRA have been in peace for a while now...
Read the arguments about Invisible Children, compelling.
Quote:Joseph Kony is undoubtedly a cruel man, but lets look at some fun facts around the issue and the organization Invisible Children:
The issue:
-The LRA is only 250 soldiers strong at this point.
-The LRA hasn't been in Uganda since 2006.
-Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting.
-US Africa Command has been trying to stop Kony for years, which only results in failure and retaliation from Kony.
-To get to Kony you'd have to ultimately kill some of his army...which consists of children soldiers.....
Invisible Children:
-Only 32% of money raised went to direct services (if you support the issue you may want to choose a more worthwhile charity).
-Their accountability and transparency is a 2 out of 4 stars on charity navigator.
-The group is in favor of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces.
- Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.”
Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. Educate yourselves a little bit before supporting a particular nonprofit.
Some good reads:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blo ... _blog.html
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ ... ?page=show
http://www.wrongingrights.com/2009/03/w ... ever.html/
http://chrisblattman.com/2009/03/04/visible-children/
http://allafrica.com/stories/201203080526.html
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2 ... ony/49634/
Not saying Kony isn't a horrible person. Just thought people might want the entire picture before they support an organization.
TBH the best comment so far.
Mar 09 2012, 10:41 AM
joker8baller Wrote:-The LRA is only 250 soldiers strong at this point.
-The LRA hasn't been in Uganda since 2006.
-Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting.
The LRA has never been a big group.
They probably operate mostly in eastern Congo.
The militaries of that whole region have a long history of atrocities.
It's wrong of the campaign to only focus on the LRA, it's a regional problem of failed states and rebel groups.
(It could also be a conscious choice. Nuance rarely inspires people. They want black and white stories that are not too complicated)
Sometimes media campaigns can be useful. The number one goal of a media campaign as such (at least it should be) is creating awareness and pressure on the own government. Pressure on the government of Uganda/Congo/... is useless, they couldn't care less. But it seems the campaign is running behind on the present situation.
joker8baller Wrote:-The group is in favor of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces.
Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. Educate yourselves a little bit before supporting a particular nonprofit.
Military intervention coming from the US, as in "boots on the ground", would be a bad idea.
The US has little interests there.
It's a huge non-urban area. They wouldn't last long there with conventional warfare.
It's not a matter of stabilizing, you would have to change the whole tribal culture there.
Recipe for disaster, only special operations are a possibiltiy. (which the US has already conducted there, in the form of 'training')
Mar 09 2012, 03:37 PM
We already have 100 Special Forces "advisers" on the ground
Mar 09 2012, 07:57 PM
Well yeah, that's special operations. With 'boots on the ground' I meant a broad military commitment, a real intervention.