silly, post: 67849, member: 2152 Wrote:Actually, it is essentially removing the awp monopoly from popular maps. If Mr Tea, you and I were on popular maps, on T side, only one of us would be able to have the awp. The most dedicated/quickest person would be able to obtain the awp every time. The monopoly is compounded when there's 10 or even 20 people on your team. I've played on maps from their beginning to end without ever being able to purchase an awp (despite trying). At least with ruplayer's (probably suspiciously intended) suggestion, everyone gets at least 1 chance. If any of you argue that the 1 awp per team limit is better, it means that either you want to continue the awp monopoly for yourselves (and as a direct consequence restrict the ability of others to use the awp) because you don't want to get shot by an awp, because you don't like change, or simply because you couldn't care less.

Mr.Tea, post: 67924, member: 1006 Wrote:In your proposed section, I would get the AWP every round. Joker wouldn't try to buy it unless someone continued to AWP him. I would money save until I could get it while you would most likely buy a weapon or armor. I would buy the AWP first chance I got. You would get enough money, but the AWP would be bought. You would continue to buy max buyout with your cash and be frustrated not getting the AWP. I usually join the losing team, many times I will be afk for 6 secs and still can buy the awp because most players don't manage/plan with their money.

I can't be the quickest person. The start of every round I am behind all of the US players because of my latency delay when buying the AWP. Yet, I get it most of the time. If you can't buy/get the AWP most of the time its because you don't really want it. You would like it, but then again, you like a lot of other weapons too.

Good Idea Fairies usually pop in to benefit their playing style. Hence the reduced round time on pop maps 6 months ago. When 40 ppl were on and a Massive battle would take place on a overly favored map, the underdog would run out of time when having a good shot at winning. Italy is a perfect example. Why did this change happen? Because an impatient person joined because most other players don't hold down their W,A,S,D keys and would die in within 30 secs every round. No vote, change was made and just favored that style.

If you really want to allow the casual awper to get an AWP make a plugin where a player can override the AWP restricted 1 time per map, but after they die with it they are governed by the AWP restriction.

Dr. Ruplayer, post: 67871, member: 9168 Wrote:1. A few people said "Too many unnecessary restrictions are already placed on the Awp.". Wait a minute, you remove some restrictions and you add other ones. You add one awp per user, but you remove 1 awp per team.

2. It is really good because it actually creates some better relation between players, motivates them for team work. Awpers will be making friends with regulars, so they can ask them to buy another awp and trade weapons. Non-Awpers will be picking dropped awp on the end of the round, so they can drop it at spawn for others on the beginning of the next round, or maybe just trade it for p90/m4/ak...

3. Sometimes I turn on tryharding and get high kills, but most of the time I join like any casual player, when I have 30 min - 1 hour free time. Sometimes I want to play with different weapons, like any casual player. I hit B-4-6 and it's already taken(1 sec after round started). Again, I can surely bind it, and my competition for that one awp will be down to only like 2-3 other people who binded it just like me, but what about the rest? Casual players, majority, people that hardly ever use their console? - I'll answer, no awp for them 99% of the time.

4. You wont see less awps, but you will see more different people holding them. You wont see less awps, but people will be using bigger variety of weapons.

5. Make it so awp can be picked, agree.

6. Tea, you're looking for some odd reason why would evil ruplayer created this thread, and you're coming to conclusion that "the thread owner has 7% of his kills with the AWP on Pop and 2% on Office. A non-AWPer trying to make things fair for awper, orly?". Really bro? You know me better than most people around here. I don't have any personal reasons or evil plans to create this thread. This thread is there because I can see how awp is not limited 1 per team, it's limited one per 2-3 same old people that continually use it, and only compete with each other for it. I really thought of servers in the first place when I created this thread. Don't try to find only bad in people, especially those people who can always back you up if needed, peace.

7. There are some yes and no votes, but overall voting process was falsified, it's not legit anymore. Bison will explain later.

8. Give it a try, worst case - we will change it back and forget about it, but give it a try first.

Thanks for taking time replying to this thread.

Spartacus, post: 67915, member: 1060 Wrote:According to Ru's theory, your teammates would provide you an awp if they deem you good enough.