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Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - Mr.Tea - Jun 21 2013

Or, more like Vive os Jogos Olímpicos

What a wonderful place to hold the Olympics and World Cup. Good practice for the police when the soccer hooligans arrive.

[video=youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=a9of8Wbclgs[/video]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=14px]Editor's note: Rogério Simões, a Brazilian journalist and former Head of the BBC's Brazilian Service, is Executive-Editor at [FONT=inherit][SIZE=14px]Época magazine[/SIZE]. He lives and works in Sao Paulo.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px](CNN) -- Not even football - or soccer, for those in the U.S. - could stop them.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]While the Confederations Cup, a warm-up tournament for next year's football World Cup, went on, hundreds of thousands of Brazilians took to the streets of Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and many other major cities in Brazil.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=14px]Read more: A new age of protests[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]In the beginning, they were few, mostly youngsters disgruntled with a 20 centavos (10 cents) rise in bus and train fares. After a violent response from the police, they were joined by Brazilians of all ages who had their own issues to shout about.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
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[SIZE=11px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=11px]Rogério Simões[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]

[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Corruption, poor public services, increasing inflation, lack of security and the not-so-much-loved-anymore World Cup.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]At a time when Brazil was supposed to be celebrating, the streets were full of anger, chanting, confrontation with the police and destruction, produced by a minority of radical demonstrators.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=14px]Watch running battles between police and protesters in Rio[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Why did the protests gain traction? Tricky question, but there is one thing no-one can deny: A significant number of Brazilians are very upset with the state of the nation.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]The transport fare hikes were canceled on Wednesday, after local authorities in Sao Paulo and Rio agreed to a U-turn in an attempt to bring back peace and order to the streets. It is still unclear whether this will mean an end to the protests.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=12px][Image: 130618093933-brazil-protest-06-17-story-body.jpg][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=12px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=11px]Why Brazilians are protesting[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=11px]Brazilian FM responds to protests[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=11px]Brazilian protester: Where do taxes go?[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]

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[SIZE=12px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=11px]Why Brazilians are staging protests[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]

[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]More important than the issue, though, seems to be the timing of all this. Bus fare increases in previous years had not led to any significant popular reaction.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]The same movement that started this month's protests - the Movimento Passe Livre (Free Pass Movement, or MPL) - had been active in previous years. After each announcement of a new bus fare they would go to the streets in their hundreds, sometimes only dozens, without being noticed by many.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Authorities expected the same in 2013. The latest increase, of less than 7%, was the first in two years and below the inflation of the period. The government, the press, the police and even bystanders were taken off-guard.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]But, somehow, the timing was just perfect for a national revolt.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px][FONT=inherit][SIZE=14px]Brazil protesters: World Cup only benefits outsiders[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]That could be explained by the way we look at Brazil. In the past decade, when the country took some 30 million people out of poverty, Brazilians enjoyed looking at what the country and its people had achieved: More formal employment, more investment, more growth, greater spending power for those who had none, more security and better outlook on life.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]On top of that, Brazil had secured the privilege to host the two main sports events in the world - the football World Cup and the Summer (Winter in Brazil) Olympic Games - in 2014 and 2016, respectively.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Brazil just seemed to have it all. With only one caveat: It did not.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]When facts of life began to remind many Brazilians that their lives were not as good as the government claimed, and the football extravaganza got closer, indicating more costs for the state without apparent benefits for the people, many people began to look at their country in a different light. Instead of focusing on the achievements, they looked at what they did not have, and that view seemed to go as far as the Amazon.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]In 2010, after eight years with a hugely popular president, the former metal worker Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brazil saw his former minister Dilma Rousseff elected as his successor.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]From the same leftist Workers Party (PT), Rousseff became the first female Brazilian President. Two-and-a-half years have passed, and she is still popular among the poorest, but the recent protests were led by a different bunch: The traditional middle class. On the streets, well-educated people, from central, urban areas, shouted that they had been sold a lie.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Inflation is once again a major concern, violent crime is on the rise, cases of corruption fill the press, healthcare is in a precarious state, infrastructure projects have not materialized and street traffic is depressingly worse than ever.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]While TV showed the inaugurations of costly, lavish football stadiums, people felt their lives were getting worse by the day. After all, the World Cup will cost the nation some $15 billion, and the promised legacy in infrastructure is still nowhere to be seen.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Worst of all: A government accustomed to surf on its safe popularity, secured mainly by the distribution of money to the poorest, did not feel the need to listen. Rousseff's message, in pre-recorded announcements on TV, has been that the country just could not be better.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]The National Congress is even more to blame, with its representatives lashed by public opinion for shocking privileges, high salaries and cases of sleaze.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]A survey by Datafolha institute, conducted this week in the city of Sao Paulo, shows a drastic fall in the prestige of political institutions in the past decade.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Only 19% of respondents say they hold the office of president in high regard, compared with 51% in 2003. The percentage of respondents who say they hold the National Congress in high regard has fallen from 30% in 2003, to 12% now.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]Many who took to the streets in Brazil - and inspired Brazilians around the world to do the same in their adopted countries - carried banners saying: "It is not only about R$ 0,20."[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]What they meant is that the bus fare rise was perhaps the least of their concerns. Corruption, lack of accountability and a realization that many promises have not been fulfilled were what led them to the streets.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]The suspension of the transport fare rise may take them back to their normal lives.[/SIZE][/INDENT]
[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]The issues, however, will not go away any time soon. And unless they are properly addressed, those problems can make the people march again.[/SIZE][/INDENT]

[INDENT=6][SIZE=14px]http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/20/world/americas/opinion-brazil-simoes/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews[/SIZE][/INDENT]

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - cucubelu - Jun 21 2013

World cup only benefits outsiders?

They should really take a look at the long term effects, as yes the government will be spending billions and the return will take years to come, but it does help the country. Improvements are made to welcome the world on a grand scale, infrastructure, new buildings, repairs of old buildings etc etc etc. What the people are doing instead, as the money is already spent, is destroying more of government and public property which is just plain stupid. The respectable and law abiding citizen will have to pick up the tab for these criminals.

IF you are interested in how South Africa got a boost in economy because of the world cup read the link below, several studies have been done in the effects of World Cup:
http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/the-2010-world-cup-and-what-it-meant-for-africa/10616/'

So sad to see Brazil like this, I am 85% sure I am buying my tickets in August for World Cup 2014.

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - ceddeeoo - Jun 21 2013

I will be there for the world cup as well. France to go all the way to final. you read it here first

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - cucubelu - Jun 21 2013

ceddeeoo, post: 96019, member: 9052 Wrote:I will be there for the world cup as well. France to go all the way to final. you read it here first
Brazil or Sweden all the way baby!! My two of the all time favorite teams! BRING IT!

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - Moriarty - Jun 22 2013

2014 Winter Olympics will be hosted in Russia. You are all invited.

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - ALING KURING SARI SARI STORE - Jun 22 2013

But many infrastructures are left rotten and they cost the government a ton of money to maintain as well. Its a good thing though that they will be hosting the two largest sporting events 2 years apart.

Tickets will skyrocket during finals.

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - Mr.Tea - Jun 22 2013

cucubelu, post: 96018, member: 15378 Wrote:World cup only benefits outsiders?

They should really take a look at the long term effects, as yes the government will be spending billions and the return will take years to come, but it does help the country. Improvements are made to welcome the world on a grand scale, infrastructure, new buildings, repairs of old buildings etc etc etc. What the people are doing instead, as the money is already spent, is destroying more of government and public property which is just plain stupid. The respectable and law abiding citizen will have to pick up the tab for these criminals.

IF you are interested in how South Africa got a boost in economy because of the world cup read the link below, several studies have been done in the effects of World Cup:
http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/the-2010-world-cup-and-what-it-meant-for-africa/10616/'

So sad to see Brazil like this, I am 85% sure I am buying my tickets in August for World Cup 2014.
Uh sorry dude, but wrong. I'm not an accountant or financial advisor but, 4.08 billion in cost versus 3.6 billion in sales isn't a good business model:
http://spartandaily.com/17890/fifa-world-cup-may-have-unknown-effects-on-host-countries
Quote:[SIZE=16px]He said taxpayers will have to pay for the 10 stadiums that were used in the World Cup.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]The South African government spent $4.08 billion on transportation, telecommunications infrastructure and stadiums, according to a July 14 news release by the South African government.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=Tahoma]http://fourfourtwo.com/news/worldcup/69734/default.aspx[/SIZE][/FONT]
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Quote:[SIZE=14px][FONT=Arial]Tourism during the June-July tournament brought in some 3.6 billion rand ($519.6 million), far less than the government had initially expected, Tourism Minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk told reporters.[/SIZE]
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http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dirty-tackle/post/South-Africa-s-World-Cup-stadiums-already-provin?urn=sow-263428
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/markogden/100025569/manchester-uniteds-visit-reawakens-the-ghost-stadiums-of-south-africa-2010/

Moriarty, post: 96034, member: 9168 Wrote:2014 Winter Olympics will be hosted in Russia. You are all invited.
Too cold.

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - cucubelu - Jun 22 2013

You are thinking short term revenues. Long term revenues estimate they will not only make up the money but show a profit due to increase tourism over the decade to come. That is the problem with short term, you can't expect to gain money as easy as ABC, and from what my South African friend tells me tourism has increased a lot since the world cup, and those are the numbers you will want to crunch in the end.

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - Moriarty - Jun 22 2013

Check the geography, it is very warm climate in Sochi.

RE: Viva Olympics 2016 or not... - ALING KURING SARI SARI STORE - Jun 22 2013

Does russia needs a visa?