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SYRIA CRISIS : US - Hostage - Aug 31 2013

   

The US, he said, cannot accept a world in which women and children are gassed:
“The world has an obligation, to make sure that we maintain the norm against the use of chemical weapons. I have not made a final decision about various actions that might be taken to help enforce that norm. But, as I’ve already said, I have had my military and our team look at a wide range of options. In no event are we considering any kind of military action that would involve boots on the ground, that would involve a long-term campaign”.

Washington accuses Syrian government forces of using chemical weapons - a claim denied by Damascus.

US President Obama says he is weighing a ‘limited and narrow’ action against Syria, but emphasised there would be no ‘boots on the ground’.

Meanwhile in France, President Hollande’s administration has said the country’s military is ready to commit forces.

and, UK Prime Minister David Cameron puts his case for action against Syria. but he failed to convince MPs of the case for war.

   

But Russia has said the UN must finish its investigation into the claims before discussing any resolution.

"'Chemical weapons' use in Syria, whoever has done it, is a criminal action and must be condemned. This is Iran's clear and absolute position," Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif wrote on his Facebook page.
"Did all those countries, which make a lot of noise today, have the same position when Saddam Hussein killed many civilians by chemical bombs in [the Iranian town of] Sardasht?" Mr Zarif added.

However, Iran does not trust the intention of the United States and its allies in launching military action against the Syrian government under the pretext of humanitarian intentions.

Forces which could be used against Syria:
  • Four US destroyers - USS Gravely, USS Ramage, USS Barry and USS Mahan - are in the eastern Mediterranean, equipped with cruise missiles
  • Cruise missiles could also be launched from submarines, including a British Trafalgar class boat. HMS Tireless was reportedly sighted in Gibraltar at the weekend
  • Airbases at Incirlik and Izmir in Turkey, and in Jordan, could be used to carry out strikes
  • Two aircraft carriers - USS Nimitz and USS Harry S Truman are in the wider region
  • The Royal Navy's response force task group- which includes helicopter carrier HMS Illustrious and frigates HMS Montrose and HMS Westminster - is in the region on a previously-scheduled deployment
  • RAF Akrotiri airbase in Cyprus could also be used
  • French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle is currently in Toulon in the western Mediterranean
  • French Raffale and Mirage aircraft can also operate from Al-Dhahra airbase in the UAE

   

If US Attacks Syria, What's Next?

   


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - cucubelu - Aug 31 2013

If a mad man and his brother started using chemical weapons against civvies they need to be put down, as simple as that. That shit needs to be stopped. I whole heartedly believe that an intervention from US and any other power is what Syria needs.


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - JayCat - Sep 01 2013

We will just send in a few tomahawk missiles at some key military sites.


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - Sibrox - Sep 01 2013

I admit yes, the US government is fucking retarded because they don't care if there will be casualities get hurt, GO RUSSIA!


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - cucubelu - Sep 01 2013

Sibrox, post: 101182, member: 14065 Wrote:I admit yes, the US government is fucking retarded because they don't care if there will be casualities get hurt, GO RUSSIA!
You are an idiot, and you should just go put your head in the sand and have the world spared of your stupidity.


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - Hostage - Sep 01 2013

Is Syria becoming another Balkan war? Every day, the syria crisis worsens. The syrian people are outmatched and outgunned. Almost 2 million people have now fled, With over 70.000 people dead, a civil war contributing to regional instability, and a world just standing by while mass killings are a daily phenomenon, U.S should act in time to stop this carnage, if a thug and a murderer like Bashar al-Assad can gas thousands of his own people with impunity. on the other hand, Russia, Iran and china are standing by syria.. Iran and Russia are working together to prevent a Western military attack on Syria. Russia even sent warships to the Mediterranean where U.S. destroyers are in position to strike if ordered. But Military action will bring great costs for the region, If it happens, It's going to be a huge disaster.


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - Donut - Sep 01 2013

More than 100,000 people died and russia still wants the un to finish investigations. Why is this madman doing this to his own people?


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - George Of The Jungle - Sep 01 2013

For the US, the disadvantages of a ground intervention greatly
outweigh the advantages. It would come with a huge economic cost.
Think Iraq, not Libya. The state of US economy is bad as it is. If you add
another long-term war to this, they might as well start burning money.
That, and America and its military is tired of war. Some more body bags
every week wouldn't help that. Not to mention the risks of blowback
from another war in that region.


First you have to dispose of Assad and those who back him, which
wouldn't be easy. Doable, but not easy. Syria's military is more
formidable than the Iraqi military at the time and has the backing of
Russia and Iran (also via Hezbollah) in the form of training, weapon
deliveries and even manpower(Iran). It's much more densely populated and
Assad won't hesitate to turn that into his advantage.

After you get rid of them comes the hard part: getting the country
stabilized. Making sure Assad is gone doesn't mean you stop the civil
war. Assad supporters and rebels are fighting each other but rebels are
fighting among themselves as well. Not to mention the sectarian
violence, Alawites and Christians are going to be targeted.
Meanwhile you can be sure that Iran is going to destabilize a US-
controlled Syria, just like they did in Iraq. Iran may condemn the use
of chemical weapons publicly but it doesn't change its support for
Assad.


A big reason why America is involved in Syria is because of Iran and
Russia, not because of the poor Syrians. And not because of chemical
weapons. It doesn't really matter whether a thousand people get killed
by Sarin gas or by artillery. And they didn't really seems to mind in
the 80's when Saddam Hussein used it against Iran. The US and Israel are
weary of a bigger influence of Iran in the region. They're countering
Iran's backing of Syria by supporting the rebels.


Obama publicly drew a red line for the conflict and now has to act on
it. He has to show the world (Iran, North Korea) America doesn't give in
on its ultimatums. And meanwhile trying to lift the power balance a bit.
A limited operation can be a risk as well though. If the regime
makes it through the waves of Tomahawks unscathed, it could
actually be in its advantage.

And now that he's decided to wait for Congressional approval, time
passes and Syria is probably "hiding" or moving its important military
factors into civilian areas, knowing the US won't launch a Tomahawk at a
school.


Meanwhile people are dying in eastern Congo as well, but that's old news
so it doesn't matter obviously.


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - Mr.Tea - Sep 03 2013

Crazy, the US drew a line about WMD use. Kind of out there with the reason we would go to conflict is because of Iran and Russia. Outlandish conspiracy....yes.

The US time and time again tries to allow NATO and the UN to act. We standby on the sidelines until a line is crossed or is about to be crossed and then take flak for standing up to what we think is right. I have no problem going to war again if it gives me an opportunity to stop atrocities. Cry whatever conspiracy you want. Bad things are happening, can we fix everything? No, but we can attempt to stop crimes against humanity which is better than watching them being committed.


RE: SYRIA CRISIS : US - Donut - Sep 04 2013

Mr.Tea, post: 101337, member: 1006 Wrote:Crazy, the US drew a line about WMD use. Kind of out there with the reason we would go to conflict is because of Iran and Russia. Outlandish conspiracy....yes.

The US time and time again tries to allow NATO and the UN to act. We standby on the sidelines until a line is crossed or is about to be crossed and then take flak for standing up to what we think is right. I have no problem going to war again if it gives me an opportunity to stop atrocities. Cry whatever conspiracy you want. Bad things are happening, can we fix everything? No, but we can attempt to stop crimes against humanity which is better than watching them being committed.
Mr. Tea =D