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‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - George Of The Jungle - Sep 15 2012
"By Ann Hornaday, Saturday, September 15, 12:34 AM
“It’s not a film!”
Those are the words I found myself shouting at the kitchen radio Friday as yet another news reporter described the anti-Muslim video clip that may have led to this week’s violent demonstrations in Egypt, Libya and Yemen.
It may be a function of just having spent a week at the Toronto International Film Festival, an annual celebration of the medium I’ve spent 20 years of my life absorbing, pondering and writing about. It might be the reflexive crouch of someone who’s spent much of that time defending cinematic principles from the creep of aesthetic degradation.
But when I watched the 13-minute YouTube “trailer” for something purportedly called “The Innocence of Muslims,” every fiber in my being resisted following the lead of people calling it a film. Not only is the project’s provenance still murky — its producer, a convicted felon with several aliases, has vanished; it may never have been seen in its entirety; its funding source remains shrouded in mystery — but the jumble of cheesy-looking scenes and badly dubbed dialogue on display look less like promotional scenes culled from a fully realized motion picture than a primitive piece of cynical agitprop.
We used to know what a movie was: a narrative or aesthetic experience captured on celluloid, then projected with the aid of a light source onto a screen. But in an era when anyone can capture a moving image on a digital phone or watch a mega-budget Hollywood spectacle on a laptop, the definition of a film has become vexingly fluid.
There’s no doubt when you’re watching “The Dark Knight Rises” on a big screen that you’re experiencing cinema. But if you watch a 17-second phone-grab of a baby panda sneezing on YouTube, is that a movie? Or is it something else?
This isn’t an argument about production values: As any Ed Wood fan will tell you, cheap-looking DIY productions have a hallowed place in cinematic history. (The Hollywood Reporter suggested Thursday that some of the alleged production was shot on the same “Backlot-istan” used to film “JAG” and other TV shows, although much of it appears to have been taped in front of a green screen, the desert backdrop superimposed later.)
But until we’re presented with a bona fide, fully edited movie to consider, all the audience has to evaluate are fragments — a series of awkwardly staged encounters between white actors in brownface that would be risible if they weren’t so vile. Indeed, “The Innocence of Muslims” doesn’t resemble a movie, or even a movie advertisement, as much as it harks back to Florida pastor Terry Jones burning a Koran — a provocation he staged and videotaped and posted on YouTube. It turns out that Jones — along with radical anti-Muslim groups in the United States and Egypt — has been promoting “The Innocence of Muslims” on his Web site. Could that mean this is more closely related to an outlandish, albeit shrewdly disseminated, stunt rather than the “film” observers keep calling it?
Then again, with the language of film in such flux — with myriad moving images being captured and transmitted so ubiquitously, on screens big and small — semantics may be the least of our problems, as this week’s events so grievously suggest. As recorded visual material proliferates, from the crudely random to the most thoughtfully composed, my quibble over whether the “Innocence of Muslims” video is a film or not matters less than whether we possess the skills to make sense of what we’re seeing.
What were the people behind and in front of the camera trying to achieve? Did they achieve it? Was it worth achieving? These are the questions I ask myself every time I sit down to write a review, and they’re as relevant for evaluating a panda sneezing as for analyzing the latest Steven Spielberg narrative epic or Terrence Malick tone poem.
Much has been made in recent days of the need for citizens living in new post-dictatorship societies to develop the thick skins that unfettered freedom of speech entails. But there’s another necessity that even those of us living in liberal, enlightened democracies can stand to brush up on. Media literacy — the ability to think skeptically and discerningly about the visual information that constantly bombards us from multiplex screens, our televisions and the Web — has become as necessary a component of civic life in the 21st century as basic literacy was in the 20th.
What were the people behind the “Innocence of Muslims” video trying to achieve? Based on the still-developing story, their aim seems to have been humiliation, whether in the name of conversion or inciting violent reaction. The fact that they succeeded has less to do with their own effectiveness — as filmmakers or hoaxsters — than in the confidence that their toxic enterprise would find a largely credulous audience. Whether or not they’ve made a genuine film is ultimately irrelevant: The more crucial question is if we’re able to be critics."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/this-is-not-a-film-or-is-it/2012/09/14/c455a41a-fe77-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
I watched it on YouTube, it's so badly made it's laughable (but not in a funny way), there's no way it was intended as a movie (as in an artform).
On one hand I frown when people start riots every time they get offended. (And they let themselves be manipulated over and over again, in this case with an attack on an embassy that was almost certainly planned long before).
On the other hand, this video is clearly made to start some shit.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - Spartacus - Sep 15 2012
Looked like Sam Bacile tried to pull off a Salman Rushdie. Anyway, found what Roald Dahl said about Rushdie surpringly related to this.
Quote:Clearly he has profound knowledge of the Muslim religion and its people, and must have been totally aware of the deep and violent feelings his book would stir up among devout Muslims. In other words, he knew exactly what he was doing and cannot plead otherwise. This kind of sensationalism does indeed get an indifferent book on to the top of the best-seller list, — but to my mind it is a cheap way of doing it.
I am totally against the riots which resulted in the needless deaths of both Libyans and Americans in the US embassy. But yeah, pretty sure Bacile knew what he was doing and what it could lead to.
Lesson learned here: Don't feed the trolls, online and IRL.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - George Of The Jungle - Sep 15 2012
There's a difference though, Rushdie is a real writer and 'The Satanic Verses' is a real novel.
It's almost certain that the sole purpose of that video was to make sure people were offended/started rioting, not to offer another perspective on Islam, not to create debate or anything else. I don't think that was the case for Salman Rushdie.
I don't think people should avoid offending others in their 'work', there's always going to be people who are offended. You could be offended by the Bible and the Quran because of it's misanthropic views (if you take it literally). That doesn't mean we should ban it/avoid making it.
It's different when your only intention is to create riots.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - Moriarty - Sep 15 2012
I think people that do riots and kill other people because of a cheap Youtube video are dumb idiots. They do this because of poor economy and low education level. Educated person would never do this. Bad economy means no jobs, means a bunch of free time, means need to blame States like always. Oh, did you see that movie? It looks like it was made by some collage trolls with budget no more than 200$... and stupid Arabs that kill people because of this troll say that US government made this movie. Dammit, even if they start a full war with States, they have no right to touch US diplomats in their country.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - Spartacus - Sep 16 2012
Dr. Ruplayer, post: 75203, member: 9168 Wrote:I think people that do riots and kill other people because of a cheap Youtube video are dumb idiots. They do this because of poor economy and low education level. Educated person would never do this. Bad economy means no jobs, means a bunch of free time, means need to blame States like always. Oh, did you see that movie? It looks like it was made by some collage trolls with budget no more than 200$... and stupid Arabs that kill people because of this troll say that US government made this movie. Dammit, even if they start a full war with States, they have no right to touch US diplomats in their country.
A tinge of truth in that. However, compared to the countries that are involved in the riots, Libya has a high literacy rate of 97.7%. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate. If we can treat that as a benchmark for the people's education level, I don't think that could be the root cause.
The Muslims in my country aren't out rioting or protesting. It doesn't mean that they don't dislike the video made. There is no point. It doesn't do any good.
I'm inclined to believe that the real reason is towards unemployment and bad economy. People there have so much anger stored in them. They just need one event, which would be the triggering factor to vent out their frustrations.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - George Of The Jungle - Sep 16 2012
The discussion is a bit similar to why people decide to act out a terrorist attack. There's been tons of research on this, it's hard to pin down and it's very individual related. Bad economy and low education definitely play a role, but there's more to it. There's plenty examples of college-graduates doing the same thing. The factor that seems to come back is: detachment from society. That can mean unemployement, but can also be ideological, feeling left out, frustration, humiliation.
And the attack on the embassy in Libya was almost certainly a planned attack, not a sudden riot. Of course certain groups are going to try to take advantage of this.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - Lieutenant Josh - Sep 16 2012
Is it me, or is this a really, really, poor excuse for the all the protests and violence?
Now if you wanted to call it, deep seeded pre-placed Anti-American sentiment placed thru past actions of the American government as well as media misconceptions and information manipulation on the part of people behind the riots and such, that seems more accurate.
Also, anyone else think this just a tad too convenient of timing?
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - Moriarty - Sep 17 2012
http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - Lieutenant Josh - Sep 18 2012
+1 Ruplayer.
Now thats better, so then wtf with the American News networks and their crap stories??
They only report the anti-americanism protests, and not those nice images courtesy of Ru.
RE: ‘Innocence of Muslims’: This is not a film. (Or is it?) - George Of The Jungle - Sep 18 2012
Lieutenant Josh, post: 75413, member: 946 Wrote:+1 Ruplayer.
Now thats better, so then wtf with the American News networks and their crap stories??
They only report the anti-americanism protests, and not those nice images courtesy of Ru.
Because of news value. You only report on crashed airplanes, not on the ones that take off and land safely.