(Aug 07 2023, 09:04 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:45 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:12 PM)Lewis Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 05:22 PM)nyo Wrote: Cheating accusations work a little better when you also include the audio. Just saying.

Which account is it?

Sample 1 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/russianlandpirate
Sample 2 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/shotsphysd
Sample 3 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/onakasuita

Oh and your 'friend' who has backed you up despite having no evidence on playing on wL thus far:
Sample 4 - https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198314145058

I have always had my suspicions on you as a player and I am glad this has come to light.

Having a bunch of alts does not directly correlate to being a cheater. That's anecdotal at best.  Also, yes, I have played on this server before more than a few times, I just didn't bother to link my STEAM account until now.

It seems more like an ego thing than you wanting to ban a player for actually cheating.

I was going to respect your opinion until I realized in those 14 games you play not only are half from 2020 highest rws you ever dropped was 9. Let the big boys handle this one.

(Aug 07 2023, 09:26 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:04 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:45 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:12 PM)Lewis Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 05:22 PM)nyo Wrote: Cheating accusations work a little better when you also include the audio. Just saying.

Which account is it?

Sample 1 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/russianlandpirate
Sample 2 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/shotsphysd
Sample 3 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/onakasuita

Oh and your 'friend' who has backed you up despite having no evidence on playing on wL thus far:
Sample 4 - https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198314145058

I have always had my suspicions on you as a player and I am glad this has come to light.

Having a bunch of alts does not directly correlate to being a cheater. That's anecdotal at best.  Also, yes, I have played on this server before more than a few times, I just didn't bother to link my STEAM account until now.

It seems more like an ego thing than you wanting to ban a player for actually cheating.

I was going to respect your opinion until I realized in those 14 games you play not only are half from 2020 highest rws you ever dropped was 9. Let the big boys handle this one.

"I'll devalue this person's opinion because of perceived experience vs. actual experience." That's all I'm getting from that one, hoss.

Don't know what that literally has to do with anything but okay, pop off I guess. Not the only account I own or play any games on, and really it's not any of your concern that I happen to still have the physical copy of CS:S that I got back in January of 2007. But okay, "let the big boys handle this one".

Steam library doesn't mean shit, and neither do your excuses. I can tell you first and foremost that I know this person is not cheating because out of a majority of the hours spent playing on this account, most of them were with this exact individual. If they were truly aimbotting, then any time I would pop in to their view regardless of how much better my positioning was, they would nab me every time.

Your astute ability to "detect aimbot" doesn't explain away, how, out of most of those games, this person has a considerably mediocre KDR, just barely edging out positive.

(Aug 07 2023, 09:43 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:26 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:04 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:45 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:12 PM)Lewis Wrote: Which account is it?

Sample 1 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/russianlandpirate
Sample 2 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/shotsphysd
Sample 3 - https://steamcommunity.com/id/onakasuita

Oh and your 'friend' who has backed you up despite having no evidence on playing on wL thus far:
Sample 4 - https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198314145058

I have always had my suspicions on you as a player and I am glad this has come to light.

Having a bunch of alts does not directly correlate to being a cheater. That's anecdotal at best.  Also, yes, I have played on this server before more than a few times, I just didn't bother to link my STEAM account until now.

It seems more like an ego thing than you wanting to ban a player for actually cheating.

I was going to respect your opinion until I realized in those 14 games you play not only are half from 2020 highest rws you ever dropped was 9. Let the big boys handle this one.

"I'll devalue this person's opinion because of perceived experience vs. actual experience." That's all I'm getting from that one, hoss.

Don't know what that literally has to do with anything but okay, pop off I guess. Not the only account I own or play any games on, and really it's not any of your concern that I happen to still have the physical copy of CS:S that I got back in January of 2007. But okay, "let the big boys handle this one".

Steam library doesn't mean shit, and neither do your excuses. I can tell you first and foremost that I know this person is not cheating because out of a majority of the hours spent playing on this account, most of them were with this exact individual. If they were truly aimbotting, then any time I would pop in to their view regardless of how much better my positioning was, they would nab me every time.

Your astute ability to "detect aimbot" doesn't explain away, how, out of most of those games, this person has a considerably mediocre KDR, just barely edging out positive.

I see you’ve been taking pointers from jimmy’s clique. “I swear they aren’t a cheeter” -tardbus

(Aug 07 2023, 10:05 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:43 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:26 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:04 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 07:45 PM)nyo Wrote: Having a bunch of alts does not directly correlate to being a cheater. That's anecdotal at best.  Also, yes, I have played on this server before more than a few times, I just didn't bother to link my STEAM account until now.

It seems more like an ego thing than you wanting to ban a player for actually cheating.

I was going to respect your opinion until I realized in those 14 games you play not only are half from 2020 highest rws you ever dropped was 9. Let the big boys handle this one.

"I'll devalue this person's opinion because of perceived experience vs. actual experience." That's all I'm getting from that one, hoss.

Don't know what that literally has to do with anything but okay, pop off I guess. Not the only account I own or play any games on, and really it's not any of your concern that I happen to still have the physical copy of CS:S that I got back in January of 2007. But okay, "let the big boys handle this one".

Steam library doesn't mean shit, and neither do your excuses. I can tell you first and foremost that I know this person is not cheating because out of a majority of the hours spent playing on this account, most of them were with this exact individual. If they were truly aimbotting, then any time I would pop in to their view regardless of how much better my positioning was, they would nab me every time.

Your astute ability to "detect aimbot" doesn't explain away, how, out of most of those games, this person has a considerably mediocre KDR, just barely edging out positive.

I see you’ve been taking pointers from jimmy’s clique. “I swear they aren’t a cheeter” -tardbus

Take a step back for just a second and actually evaluate what you've so fervently convinced yourself of. I know introspection can be hard, but it might help you to understand more that you are not always right. Actually think about what you are seeing in those clips, and take in to genuine consideration the information that has been provided to you (sensitivity, etc). 

In this case, the "snappy and inhuman aim" is likely an artifact of a horrendously high sensitivity (According to M4MORU's own settings, they are playing on 9cm/360. That's nigh uncontrollable for me, but there are plenty of twitch shooters that play with sens that high). Nothing here screams beyond a reasonable doubt, and it seems more like you have a personal grievance to work out than an actual valid cheating accusation.

Ego on the shelf, look inside yourself. Understand that you are not always right, and learn from that experience.

(Aug 07 2023, 10:15 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:05 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:43 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:26 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:04 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote: I was going to respect your opinion until I realized in those 14 games you play not only are half from 2020 highest rws you ever dropped was 9. Let the big boys handle this one.

"I'll devalue this person's opinion because of perceived experience vs. actual experience." That's all I'm getting from that one, hoss.

Don't know what that literally has to do with anything but okay, pop off I guess. Not the only account I own or play any games on, and really it's not any of your concern that I happen to still have the physical copy of CS:S that I got back in January of 2007. But okay, "let the big boys handle this one".

Steam library doesn't mean shit, and neither do your excuses. I can tell you first and foremost that I know this person is not cheating because out of a majority of the hours spent playing on this account, most of them were with this exact individual. If they were truly aimbotting, then any time I would pop in to their view regardless of how much better my positioning was, they would nab me every time.

Your astute ability to "detect aimbot" doesn't explain away, how, out of most of those games, this person has a considerably mediocre KDR, just barely edging out positive.

I see you’ve been taking pointers from jimmy’s clique. “I swear they aren’t a cheeter” -tardbus

Take a step back for just a second and actually evaluate what you've so fervently convinced yourself of. I know introspection can be hard, but it might help you to understand more that you are not always right. Actually think about what you are seeing in those clips, and take in to genuine consideration the information that has been provided to you (sensitivity, etc). 

In this case, the "snappy and inhuman aim" is likely an artifact of a horrendously high sensitivity (According to M4MORU's own settings, they are playing on 9cm/360. That's nigh uncontrollable for me, but there are plenty of twitch shooters that play with sens that high). Nothing here screams beyond a reasonable doubt, and it seems more like you have a personal grievance to work out than an actual valid cheating accusation.

Ego on the shelf, look inside yourself. Understand that you are not always right, and learn from that experience.

Guys I honestly swear other people play like that!!!!

(Aug 07 2023, 10:23 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:15 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:05 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:43 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:26 PM)nyo Wrote: "I'll devalue this person's opinion because of perceived experience vs. actual experience." That's all I'm getting from that one, hoss.

Don't know what that literally has to do with anything but okay, pop off I guess. Not the only account I own or play any games on, and really it's not any of your concern that I happen to still have the physical copy of CS:S that I got back in January of 2007. But okay, "let the big boys handle this one".

Steam library doesn't mean shit, and neither do your excuses. I can tell you first and foremost that I know this person is not cheating because out of a majority of the hours spent playing on this account, most of them were with this exact individual. If they were truly aimbotting, then any time I would pop in to their view regardless of how much better my positioning was, they would nab me every time.

Your astute ability to "detect aimbot" doesn't explain away, how, out of most of those games, this person has a considerably mediocre KDR, just barely edging out positive.

I see you’ve been taking pointers from jimmy’s clique. “I swear they aren’t a cheeter” -tardbus

Take a step back for just a second and actually evaluate what you've so fervently convinced yourself of. I know introspection can be hard, but it might help you to understand more that you are not always right. Actually think about what you are seeing in those clips, and take in to genuine consideration the information that has been provided to you (sensitivity, etc). 

In this case, the "snappy and inhuman aim" is likely an artifact of a horrendously high sensitivity (According to M4MORU's own settings, they are playing on 9cm/360. That's nigh uncontrollable for me, but there are plenty of twitch shooters that play with sens that high). Nothing here screams beyond a reasonable doubt, and it seems more like you have a personal grievance to work out than an actual valid cheating accusation.

Ego on the shelf, look inside yourself. Understand that you are not always right, and learn from that experience.

Guys I honestly swear other people play like that!!!!

"They do not play as a carbon copy of me, therefore they are cheating, I swear!"

(Aug 07 2023, 11:48 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:23 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:15 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:05 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 09:43 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote: I see you’ve been taking pointers from jimmy’s clique. “I swear they aren’t a cheeter” -tardbus

Take a step back for just a second and actually evaluate what you've so fervently convinced yourself of. I know introspection can be hard, but it might help you to understand more that you are not always right. Actually think about what you are seeing in those clips, and take in to genuine consideration the information that has been provided to you (sensitivity, etc). 

In this case, the "snappy and inhuman aim" is likely an artifact of a horrendously high sensitivity (According to M4MORU's own settings, they are playing on 9cm/360. That's nigh uncontrollable for me, but there are plenty of twitch shooters that play with sens that high). Nothing here screams beyond a reasonable doubt, and it seems more like you have a personal grievance to work out than an actual valid cheating accusation.

Ego on the shelf, look inside yourself. Understand that you are not always right, and learn from that experience.

Guys I honestly swear other people play like that!!!!

"They do not play as a carbon copy of me, therefore they are cheating, I swear!"

I never said they had to play like me if you go back and read what I said I gave my opinion on it without trying to insult them and even stated that I would watch their demos here and as well go watch some that are not listed. You have took it upon yourself to white knight and yes I doubt anything you have to say "I have a hard copy" like I give a fuck clearly that hard copy didn't bestow the powers to simply understand how to play the game into your brain as you have yet to show you have any understanding of how the game works through playing it. Let's get something understood though to some extent players that understand the game are going to play somewhat similar in the way they play in situations. It doesn't take a lot of sense to understand how to play certain things or where they should be looking at in the situation they are in. I did say they had a inhuman reaction there and it is very weird considering they are shooting the last 2 people on site and flick over very what seems to be it locking on to something and then proceed to flick right back to site and start shooting the people. If you watch the demos the game sense and the way they play is very mediocre to the way they shoot and aim at people. The clips that I have seen from them have all been this very weird flick that happens at times. I think you should watch the demos yourself before automatically assuming the word of someone over the internet just because they say they aren't cheating/ or you assume they arent because you have known them.

(Aug 08 2023, 04:37 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 11:48 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:23 PM)nyo Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:15 PM)Bleh HEAVYGRINDER ` Wrote:

(Aug 07 2023, 10:05 PM)nyo Wrote: Take a step back for just a second and actually evaluate what you've so fervently convinced yourself of. I know introspection can be hard, but it might help you to understand more that you are not always right. Actually think about what you are seeing in those clips, and take in to genuine consideration the information that has been provided to you (sensitivity, etc). 

In this case, the "snappy and inhuman aim" is likely an artifact of a horrendously high sensitivity (According to M4MORU's own settings, they are playing on 9cm/360. That's nigh uncontrollable for me, but there are plenty of twitch shooters that play with sens that high). Nothing here screams beyond a reasonable doubt, and it seems more like you have a personal grievance to work out than an actual valid cheating accusation.

Ego on the shelf, look inside yourself. Understand that you are not always right, and learn from that experience.

Guys I honestly swear other people play like that!!!!

"They do not play as a carbon copy of me, therefore they are cheating, I swear!"

I never said they had to play like me if you go back and read what I said I gave my opinion on it without trying to insult them and even stated that I would watch their demos here and as well go watch some that are not listed. You have took it upon yourself to white knight and yes I doubt anything you have to say "I have a hard copy" like I give a fuck clearly that hard copy didn't bestow the powers to simply understand how to play the game into your brain as you have yet to show you have any understanding of how the game works through playing it. Let's get something understood though to some extent players that understand the game are going to play somewhat similar in the way they play in situations. It doesn't take a lot of sense to understand how to play certain things or where they should be looking at in the situation they are in. I did say they had a inhuman reaction there and it is very weird considering they are shooting the last 2 people on site and flick over very what seems to be it locking on to something and then proceed to flick right back to site and start shooting the people. If you watch the demos the game sense and the way they play is very mediocre to the way they shoot and aim at people. The clips that I have seen from them have all been this very weird flick that happens at times. I think you should watch the demos yourself before automatically assuming the word of someone over the internet just because they say they aren't cheating/ or you assume they arent because you have known them.

I did watch the demos, and all I saw was just lucky reflexes. Again, high sensitivity can lead to snappy movements which, again, resembles aimlocking. Why do you think all of these flashy esports highlights from players at high levels LOOK like that?. Stop grasping at straws, it literally does you no good.

Seriously. Not a hard concept to process: it's not an aimbot. It's not even silent-aim.
https://gyazo.com/5d148e7ee51cbcdce2c7c293c62239f4
This clip: Tries to take an aim duel against two people; one retreats to cover while the other strands themself and commits to jumping, guaranteeing they will die to the spam. There's nothing inhuman about the movement here, it does indeed have the level of human error that comes with trying to correct for a moving target.

https://gyazo.com/0fff43f6221437d00d69d911e847beec
This clip: Unfortunate position to find yourself in, crosshair was lined up where the enemy happened to be. Hard to fully judge what we're seeing for that second kill because this is from the server's perspective and doesn't account for what the player was seeing on their screen the moment it happened. Initial flick misses, correction gets them. Slowing it down, there is no unnatural path the crosshair takes, and the ammount of correction I saw is pretty normal for someone with high sensitivity. 


https://gyazo.com/e99706c717ef82887672cfe66d1ad974

This clip: That's more on you for not checking the corner they were in. Peekers advantage would mean you naturally would scope this kill, but it looks like you just turn and then go about your business as if you didn't see anything. Either not used to the map you're on, or you just had a bout of human error yourself. There is nothing in this clip that indicates aimbot, you did kind of just walk in to the crosshair. (please keep in mind if it isn't you specifically as the player getting killed, know that I understand that; I'm just using "you" to make the second person perspective easier to understand.)


Game sense and aim can be something you have either one or the other. Just because both aren't present in the exact same capacity does not mean someone is cheating.