[Jesse]

When a captain picks a troll map no one wants to play, there should be a veto option, so half of a pug won't complain, leave, and it can go to a vote. Half the captains just troll the captains round anyway so they can win and ruin pugs, and these new gungame maps with absolute no structure do not help.

I like the recent addition of these maps. It keeps everyone nimble when it comes to captains round.

The veto thing is a great idea. Only thing is, we're here to play pugs, not play captains round all day until you win.

villa is a pretty decent map IMO. I like cevo hazard even though I don't know it very well yet. I have yet to play the ballast map.

Can't really think of any other maps that nobody wants to play, and even the maps i did list, well somebody wants to play them if they're chosen,,, which sorta invalidates your argument.

To strengthen the appeal of the things you are proposing, you should back up them up with at the very least less outlandish claims. Say, "virtually no one      ," and, "almost half," and, "almost half," and, "pretty much no structure." Best case would be to create a survey w/ like google or survey monkey or w/e and get some hard numbers demonstrating ur point

jesses blabber totally missing the point

some of the gungame maps you spawn practically next to an enemy...no structure

you can hide on some of these maps like a troll and you become captain for doing nothing even when there is a plugin that tries to prevent that

cbble was taken off because no one wanted to ever play it, but someone would pick it. the veto would prevent ever going to it, and then forcing another pick. no need for another captains round or to change the captains, or lose captains round at all, but force another map pick by the captain thats more agreeable so people wont leave

the veto would prevent having unfair teams because people want to leave a map they never wanted to play. remember when there wasnt a captains round because of the map trolling?

its not about disliking cevo hazard, lost temple, villa, fire, cbble, etc (all of which i do enjoy), but about keeping the consistency in a 5v5 and not having it become a .sub fest

more often than not people will leave when those are chosen. teams get unbalanced and makes the pug not fun again. there are times people do want to play those maps and thats fine, but when most do not this would give the pug a chance of surviving with the original 10

if people dont want to play d2,nuke,strike for the millionth time they can veto to try and force another pick of a more agreeable map

people will leave when something they do not want is chosen. teams get unbalanced and makes the pug not fun again

not everyone is going to always agree with the choice, but this could help

and remember this is just an idea to try and help make the pugs better...try and help out in that way jesse

i agree with some of ur points