OwnageHN Wrote:

Loks Wrote:i clearly remeber Mr.Tea always saying ownage is cool he not hacks and see wath he got a admin abuse report by ownage just because one slay!! O_O

Admin abuse is admin abuse.  I'm not going to show favoritism toward an admin abuser just because he knows that I don't cheat.  I also shouldn't have to kiss an admin's ass just to not be admin abused.

I think what loks was referring to, that again, and again, your entire defense on admin abuse threads is; Admins are angry at me because I'm better than them at this game. Loks is pointing out that Mr. Tea who has shown no signs of disliking you, has used admin on you being unbiased.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Loks Wrote:I watched the demo and Mr.Tea give him a warning 2 rounds before than Ts won 2 rounds! in the round ownage is slayed he was the bomb guy!! if i was Mr.Tea i will do the same thing!!!

His warning "2 rounds before" was for an illogical reason.  The odds were against me, and like many others agreed, it would have been dumb of me to commit suicide.  If anything, this was a warning to be admin abused.

Also, could someone else confirm that I was the bomber when I got slayed?  From what I remember, it was down somewhere near CT side of underpass.  Regardless, when I was slayed, I was pinned down by a CT in tunnels so there was no way for me to advance without killing him.  After I killed him, there still could have been 10 CTs in the tunnels since one of my teammates was pretty deep into underpass.  The logical thing to have done at this point was to either kill off all of the CTs that came rushing out of tunnels and potentially winning, or save the weapon for next round so our chances of winning would be greater than if I were to have died.

I'm pretty sure public servers came before CAL-like scrimmages, so the concept of "saving" isn't some new idea exclusive to the latter.

I would never consider someone who is trying to do the map objective and maintain a peaceful fun experience for all players involved as " dumb ".
Also, arguing when the concept of saving is irrelevant, as we are talking about the server rules and how they pertain to the way you don't follow them.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Mr.Tea Wrote:Just to re-iterate:
1st warning he was the last guy for over 1minute.  I made him aware of the objectives at 30 seconds because he was camp picking guys in a 1 vs 6.  It was 1 vs 6 because his team attempted to push which he did not support.  He was overwatching a flank, which is a valid tactic.  However, if you watch all the red dots disappear and don't do anything to support.  Nothing tactical about that.

If I remember this correctly, I was watching underpass (covering a flank) after a CT pushed (he died) while the last of my teammates died in the tunnels within a few seconds.  When I started to make my way to the tunnels, CTs had already almost pushed out of the tunnels.  With an AWP, less than half health, and the potential for them to have grenades ready, I was not going to rush into the tunnels to get potentially naded and overran.  I instead watched a CT run out of tunnels toward T spawn so I rotated around back to kill him (and killed him.)  At this time, I imagined others CTs rushing out of tunnels going toward underpass side to try and flank me, so I had to stay in my position to kill both sides of their potentially split forces.  This pinned me down in my position and forced me to save for the next round.

The other team cannot force you to do anything... Blaming other players for the actions you choose to take is not going to make a good argument either.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Mr.Tea Wrote:The slay round he bait/awped in the tunnels on dust.  No problem with that tactic, but if you bait/awp your whole team and its you and some other dude camping in a 2v11.  That was your poor choice of strategy.  You were prompted at 30 secs about maybe looking at the objectives, but you stayed and waited.  The person that I warned for shooting you in the head was obviously frustrated with you not using the awp to pust forward.  Regardless, I warned him about shooting snipers in the head.

I was not baiting my teammates.  A sniper cannot bait their teammates in a close quarter battle.  Why would anyone expect a sniper to go in first?  Furthermore, if I was standing back, then that's because my teammates shouldn't have been in the tunnel in the configuration they were standing in.  To be able to control tunnels as a T, you must be able to watch all flanks.  Instead, most of my teammates were dying because most of the players were clustering near the big box on the T side of tunnels while the others were rushing to their deaths, one by one, when they ran toward A.

Also, I don't remember getting shot in the head by my teammate.  If I did, I would have said something.

I use sniper rifles quite a bit, and I don't seem to have a hard time getting into a gunfight in a server that does not involve being a mile away from people. While I do acknowledge that a sniper is more effect at long range, you must realize that this is first and foremost a team orientated server.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Mr.Tea Wrote:The picture that is painted on a 2v11 "suicide rush" and save the awp.  Again, I waited until 30 secs because that is plenty of time to make forward movement to the objective.  Not running straight to the objective and being wiped out, but making some sort of offensive move.

Again, I was in the same situation I was in before.  I was at underpass when the rest of my team died in tunnels.  CTs were pushing tunnels so I stayed back to AWP them from underpass when they came out.  If I killed enough of them, I would have rushed tunnels or perhaps underpass if I had enough time left.

Regardless if you killed what you believe to be “enough " of them, does not change the fact that our rules suggest players should try and achieve the objective of either planting the bomb, or killing all the counter terrorists from your position. If you are waiting for them to rush you, then that is not showing us, that you are taking the initiative to do the objective.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Mr.Tea Wrote:This is not a situational slay.  Where I watched him 1 round and slayed for not doing the objectives.  I've observed the entire match.  He was slow playing both rnds that I had to notify T's of time remaining. That led to my slay of the terrorists left alive the second time for not making any attempt to do the objectives. 

Once again, refer to this thread, I was making an attempt to do the objectives.

This is still yet to be proven, by our server rules.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Mr.Tea Wrote:This would require peeking to see if anyone was there.  If you would have attempted to enter the tunnels and be attacked by overwhelming cts is one thing, but you were using stand-off picking them off. 

So basically you admitted that I should have committed suicide by rushing into tunnels when I knew CTs would be there by your comment about "being attacked by overwhelming cts."  Committing suicide has nothing to do with not "Ignoring game objectives."  In fact, I'm ignoring the next round's game objectives if I choose to lose all of my weapons, armor, and grenades.

Rushing into tunnels, would not be committing suicide. Opening console and typing "kill" would be committing suicide.

OwnageHN Wrote:

Mr.Tea Wrote:It was de_dust...when players are aloud to not do the objectives.  It turns into 2:30 minutes of 10 players wasting everyone else's time. Just like aztec, italy, and assault.

So now it's the map's fault you abused your admin?

*sigh*