Dec 01 2011, 04:53 AM
science isn't dependent on philosophy, that's just the method we used to arrive at science. philosophy wouldn't have been necessary if religion didn't exist.
free will and happiness aren't derived from philosophy, philosophy was an attempt at understanding those kinds of things, not creating them. religion was an alternative justification for them.
ethics don't actually exist, it's a changing set of rules based on environment, situation and times. again, not necessary to have philosophical studies to have ethics or morals. i don't need to sit down and have a philosophical debate about whether or not to kill someone, i just make a spur of the moment decision based on raised instinct. also i can't believe you fucking put language down as something that came from philosophy, language existed long before philosophy, it's actual something we EVOLVED to have. there's an entire section of our brain dedicated to language, and that section of the brain sprung up before philosophy.
science is in no way related to philosophy. the only reason you're putting that is because the first scientists were also philosophers, and that's because there was no science back in those days. the parts of an atom are not a philosophical conundrum.
philosophy: The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, esp. when considered as an academic discipline.
science: systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
the very key difference between those is the process. if all we did was philosophy, nothing would ever get done. science is a system of experimentation and counter experimentation and continuing experimentation to ensure what we know to be true always holds up to be true, and what we believe to be true based on verifiable evidence can be tested and shown to match or not match our hypothesis.
this is where you say oh well without philosophy you couldn't have a theory or hypothesis, but if that's your argument then without philosophy you don't have thought. i refuse to give philosophy such a grand and broad definition that anything pertaining to though counts as philosophy. nothing is that broad.
free will and happiness aren't derived from philosophy, philosophy was an attempt at understanding those kinds of things, not creating them. religion was an alternative justification for them.
ethics don't actually exist, it's a changing set of rules based on environment, situation and times. again, not necessary to have philosophical studies to have ethics or morals. i don't need to sit down and have a philosophical debate about whether or not to kill someone, i just make a spur of the moment decision based on raised instinct. also i can't believe you fucking put language down as something that came from philosophy, language existed long before philosophy, it's actual something we EVOLVED to have. there's an entire section of our brain dedicated to language, and that section of the brain sprung up before philosophy.
science is in no way related to philosophy. the only reason you're putting that is because the first scientists were also philosophers, and that's because there was no science back in those days. the parts of an atom are not a philosophical conundrum.
philosophy: The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, esp. when considered as an academic discipline.
science: systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
the very key difference between those is the process. if all we did was philosophy, nothing would ever get done. science is a system of experimentation and counter experimentation and continuing experimentation to ensure what we know to be true always holds up to be true, and what we believe to be true based on verifiable evidence can be tested and shown to match or not match our hypothesis.
this is where you say oh well without philosophy you couldn't have a theory or hypothesis, but if that's your argument then without philosophy you don't have thought. i refuse to give philosophy such a grand and broad definition that anything pertaining to though counts as philosophy. nothing is that broad.
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