naive Wrote:The only thing that ties you to your physical goods is the information of your ownership of them in the first place. If I have a device capable of cloning that information and taking that which you claim to own simpl because it is possible, you would would have little recourse in taking it back.

Except you aren't taking it. You are copying it. And that magic machine? It's your computer. If you could copy physical property, I can't think of a single thing I own that I'd seriously mind someone copying.

naive Wrote:Information is essentially everything. Your title to your car is a piece of information that prevents me from just taking it from you and saying its mine, or that it is better for the public if I use your car.

Stealing information is different than copying. Like I said, if someone copied my car (if I had a car), I'd have no beef with them what so ever.

naive Wrote:If you read my long post instead of tl;dr'ing you would see.

I've done my fair share of research on the topic, so I doubt you're going to add much that I don't already know. At some point I'm sure I won't be that lazy to read it. We've already had plenty of walls of text on this thread, so I'm a bit weary of it. ;P

silly Wrote:Happiness doesn't have value?

Happiness is not quantitative.

silly Wrote:Peace of mind doesn't have value?

Also not quantitative.

silly Wrote:These things aren't physical in the sense that you're talking about, but it'd be ridiculous to say that they are worthless.

Positive emotions are priceless. Anyway, this is getting more into the spectrum of philosophy than the topic at hand warrants.

silly Wrote:Naive's long post was well thought out, give it a try.

I will eventually.