Mr.Tea Wrote:Disagree completely with you Silly.  Refer to MOTD:

Quote:While playing on the War-Lords gaming network you agree to abide by these rules. Any breaking of these rules will result in disciplinary action.
Team Stacking
People who intentionally teamstack to harvest points will have either their points adjusted, points completely reset, or gameme tracking disabled for their account.

Don't Cheat
People who cheat in online games are only cheating themselves. All cheating will get you is a permanent ban from the War-Lords gaming servers, no questions asked. Correspondence will seldom be entered into on this subject - just don't do it!

The following things are not permitted on the War-Lords servers and will result in swift punishment:
Hacking.
Exploiting the server or game.
Exploiting the map.
Ignoring game objectives.
Deliberate team killing.
Deliberate team flashing.
Mic and Chat spamming.
Inappropriate sprays. Shock sprays and hardcore porn is not allowed.
Inappropriate language or names (General cussing in moderation is allowed).
Impersonating a Admin.
Linking to cheat, shock or inappropriate websites.

If you're unsure about anything ask an admin.

What about it? I don't think you understood what I was saying.

Mr.Tea Wrote:Read older abuse threads to see that admins don't and aren't aloud to get away with bloody murder, i.e. justified-is just a lie to harass admins and do what you want. (you is not directed personally at Silly just players that don't like "authority")

I gather you're trying imply that I am the same? If you're not then no worries, but if you are, you are misrepresenting me, because that's not my intention at all.

Mr.Tea Wrote:If you don't like rules play on private servers or "free" servers with no MOTD/Admin.  Most servers have rules to "control" players behaviors in the GAME

Misrepresenting me. I don't have a problem with justified rules (all of those rules in the MOTD are fair), and nor do I have a problem when an admin follows those justified rules. I have a problem when people give the reason that someone was banned as "ignoring an admin", instead of "ignoring justifiable rule".

It says in the MOTD the reasonable penalty for stacking, but when people "ignore an admin", they get a harsher penalty which I don't think is justified. 

Mr.Tea Wrote:I interpret your suggestions as to make admins "gun shy"/restricted to what they are able to do.  We are highly scrutinized on a daily basis.  We are one of the few severs that are "player rights focused" meaning that we hold admins accountable for their actions/decisions.  We aren't the 1%, "the man," "the system," or whatever authority that people gripe about.

Misrepresenting me again. I don't see you as "the system" or anything like that, as a whole, I just see you as a group of people who are trying to fairly run gaming servers.

Do you think admins should be able to act on any personal whim, or that they should follow a list of reasonable
guidelines?

Banning someone for "ignoring an admin" does not have a valid justification. What's wrong with ignoring an admin?

Perhaps the admin was enforcing a rule, and someone repeatedly broke that rule?

Fine. Then that person was punished for repeatedly "breaking a rule", not for "ignoring an admin".

Mr.Tea Wrote:Feeling de ja vu in this thread.  Please refrain from drawing this out into a philosophical discussion.

It was your choice to respond to this thread.