Dec 09 2012, 09:57 AM
Well, I have ever played zombie escape in plaguefest, but last year I couldn't enter the server again, so yeah. I'm really waiting for the ze server, so excited to see it.
I'll look through these suggestions and give some red marks on them.
Too much assumption IMO. Just say you're sure with them.
And, would you please update the activities again? 's been 1 month since your last report. But anyway thanks a lot.
I'll look through these suggestions and give some red marks on them.
lin3ar, post: 78015, member: 795 Wrote:http://war-lords.net/threads/zombie-escape.3560/
1. RPG Mod
How will this work? The mod will be something along the lines of:
- gaining experience per zombie kill or human infection (zombie kills should have twice or three times the experience rewarded than a human infection due to the difference in difficulty)
- experience gained goes towards a level system, for example, there are 200 levels from 1-200 Nice idea
- each level gained rewards you with a skill point that can be spent on improving attributes such as
* increased health
* increased jump height (might require some delicate tweaking or elimination altogether because of the setup of some maps) Won't go along in most maps, especially at holding points. Zombies can reach more places, as well as humans(then he's uninfectable).
* increased bullet damage Since bosses take damage from number of shots (I assume), this one is ok.
* increased grenade damage If this doesn't interrupt boss damaging system like Bahamuth, ok.
* increased maximum armor
You might be thinking "RPG Mod is too cumbersome for gameplay - it makes things too complicated!" Actually, that slight complexity is actually a good thing for ZM/ZE. I've played and admin'd for a ZM/ZE community long before joining wL and the RPG mod worked perfectly - it ensured that there was incentive to continue playing in order to gain ingame benefits and was a hit with the player base. From my experiences, nonsteam players especially love the RPG Mod and most ZM/ZE servers do not run it. Since we are a both steam/nonsteam community, we could use this to our advantage to gain traffic. Nice essay.
Quote:2. Custom human player models
My personal ideas : Seasonal human models (Like a Leet wearing a Santa hat or so)
Now, here's where my suggestion takes a radical turn - I propose dividing models into public and private. Public models are open for all players to use while private models are only available for admins and donors. Fair enough.
3. More zombie classes/races
The average ZE/ZM servers run around 4 zombie classes, usually the same models across all servers with the same stats. This, as you all know, may become boring after hours and hours of playing. Since we have custom human models with RPG Mod (which also affects zombies), it only makes sense to have more zombie classes/races to choose from, giving players access to a greater variety of zombie models and stats.
By stats, I am referring to health, speed, jump height, knockback resistance, and health regeneration. Each zombie model/class/race should have a different value for those stats as to promote variety and strategic use of certain models on some maps. You might also like to add Hitbox, I'll explain it down there.
Zombie models can possibly be subject to division or public/private ones, though that may not be necessary as most people prefer human models.
Here are some examples of zombie models that we can use aside from the normally used ones:
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...d90e447e06
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8...d90e447e06
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8...d90e447e06
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2...d90e447e06
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...d90e447e06
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...d90e447e06
As long as it's not CSO zombies, fine. But I prefer HL2 zombies as well. (And maybe Black Mesa)
Now, talking about classes, I know that we will have a slow zombie with less knockback, right? But anyway, if you wanna put a fast zombie class, I'm sure it's not the one in our ZM server.
My personal suggestions : the fast zombie is more like in plaguefest, not way too fast. And there's a Half zombie which walks using his arms, his hitbox is more like the half of normal zombie's, if you're unsure ask plaguefest.
Quote:4. Buymenu anytime, anywhere
Before I go on, I suggest that the starting cash every round is $10,000. Pretty fair enough.
Having unlimited ammo on ZE is generally a terrible idea Of course for most maps unless you dramatically scale up zombie health and attributes. As such, humans should have 900 rounds in each gun, but must reload after each clip. However, sometimes, in a map, you may want to switch out guns because another gun might be better, you are bored with your current one, etc. A universal buy menu is the solution, but there's a catch. All guns will cost at least 1.5x as much as their original price. The scaling should be determined by the general usefulness of certain types of guns in ZE. For example, AWP price should remain generally the same due to their general uselessness on ZE while SMGs should be inflated to 2-4x their original price due to the popularity of SMGs in ZE. Great idea. Armor should also be for sale for twice the original price. An additional option would be to buy extra health as a zombie (for example, +1000 health for $7500)
Also enable the option to buy grenades. Grenades are a critical part in ZE since (assuming we run the Napalm Grenade mod like every ZE/ZM does) they are used to temporarily slow the zombie advance. Because grenades are so useful, make their price prohibitively expensive, such as $5000 for a grenade via the universal buymenu. This one is generally a terrible idea. Firstly, learn to save grenades, that's important because they're used to slow enemies down. Second, some bosses like Bahamuth take a lot of damage from grenades, and that's the key of winning. If we can just buy grenades, what would the boss fight, and also teamwork mean?
Here's where donor benefits come in again. Donors should receive a 33% discount on all items in the buymenu. Assuming donors have to buy up at the beginning of a round, the discount should only amount to the difference of 1 grenade, which should not imbalance gameplay too much, since you also have to take into account players turning into zombies upon spawn.
A bounty system might complement the buymenu nicely, as the buymenu's items are very expensive.
lin3ar, post: 78078, member: 795 Wrote:Update: ZE server is up for ongoing testing. Good.
10/24:
- 45 maps added (a few will need full testing due to lack of feedback from other communities)
- Admin added
- !block added
- Anti-cheat added
- various small gameplay/server tweaks and updates
10/25: (in progress)
- Uploading human and zombie models
- Adjusting zombie classes
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ZE server will be going into testing phase later today hopefully.
ZE will remain on CS:S seeing how CS:GO's ZE is not as developed and nowhere near as popular. Additionally, the vast majority of the nonsteam community is on CS:S
Stay tuned for more information to come on the status of the server. While I will be updating this thread with the mods we plan to test and implement, please feel free to post your own suggestionsDouble post
Suggestions update on a mod that we plan to test and implement:
5. Powerups
Time to change up gameplay and make things a bit more interesting. Are you the top fragger on the server but feel like your score doesn't really mean anything? Do you feel that your efforts should be rewarded? Well, there's powerups for you. How will powerups work you say?
The tentative setup is to have human kills on zombies be worth 3 kills too small I say and zombie infections on humans be worth 1 kill. Each kill, as displayed on the scoreboard, will award you with one "boost point." If you kill yourself (deaths by map environment are not included), your points are reset to 0. If you fail to get a kill past your second consecutive death, you lose 1 point for each following death that you get without a kill. Winning the round as a human awards every human alive 5 points. You can then spend these points on temporary powerups that will last for the duration of the round. Powerups can stack if you have sufficient points to purchase several at the same time. Examples of these powerups include:
- trade a point for $1000 But you can't buy points with a thousand bucks right?
- increase your current health as a human by 2x, 1.5x as a zombie
- increase your current armor by 2x
- increase your bullet damage by 2x (human only) As I said before, as long as it doesn't interrupt boss system and other breakables.
- increase your knife damage by 10x (human only) Chuck Norris!
- gain 20% more speed for humans, 10% more speed for zombies What? No. The human could escape easier, and the same rational thing applies for the zombies.
- gain 20% higher jump for humans, 10% more jump for zombies As I said before, it would open more possibilities.
- gain 20% knockback resistance (zombie only) Pretty fair enough for a high price.
- 50% invisibility Mini-Predator? No.
- 10 hp regeneration every 3 seconds as human, 200 hp regeneration every 3 seconds as zombie (stacks with innate zombie regeneration)
- place a C4 that can be remotely detonated to damage zombies in a set radius (human only) Wow, Overpowered players.
- knife hits will result in a one hit kill on zombies? (not sure if this can be coded in) (human only) Haha, another overpowered Chuck Norris.
- deagle that has only one bullet but will kill any zombie in one hit? (not sure if this can be coded in) (ONE human only)
- carry 2/4/6 grenades at once? (not sure if this can be coded in) (human only) Told ya.
- immobilize target player for 3s? (not sure if this can be coded in) That would suck. The almost-winning survivor would cry.
- invulnerable to all damage (zombies can still be knockbacked), including zombie infection, for 5 seconds Sometimes the infection immune is not a good idea, as sometimes the difference between win and lose is less than 5 secs.
- gain unlimited ammo (human only) Haha. No.
- bullets explode on impact? (not sure if this can be coded in) (human only) It might turn to be a cheap game.
and more to come pending suggestions and testing.
All powerups and values are not finally determined until further discussion with the roots and testing is done to verify balance. Of course. Obviously, the stronger the powerup is, the more points it will require to purchase.It's not always like that. If it's overpowered, no. And please don't make it get points to win.The highest end powerups may not be possible to achieve in the duration of one, two, or even three maps if you do not get many kills. So this powerup thing would encourage players to play more right?
The one potential issue with this mod is the existence of score multipliers in certain maps such as [SIZE=12px]z[/SIZE][SIZE=12px]e_FFVII_mako_reactor, [/SIZE][SIZE=12px]ze_predator_ultimate, and especially [/SIZE][SIZE=12px]ze_LOTR_Minas_Tirith [/SIZE][SIZE=12px]And also Helms Deep[/SIZE][SIZE=12px].Tentatively, I say we disable powerups altogether on maps with score multipliers unless Bison finds a way to isolate actual kills from "artificial" kills rewarded from winning a round in those maps. Might be something like in-game mod, just like the teleporter in mg_bobiii.[/SIZE]
Some of the models we have been testing:
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...a77b37d59d
http://s-low.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...a77b37d59d
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Please don't put silver alien thingy and CSO skins.
For the headcrab I would recommend you the Black Mesa one.
And, if you're looking for great models, I have this community called Mapeadores. I got it from Hannibal's blog. You could search some or make a request. Simple as that.
Specific link : http://mapeadores.com/categorias/modelos-models.33/
Zombie : http://mapeadores.com/foros/monstruos-y-...d-zombies/
Too much assumption IMO. Just say you're sure with them.
And, would you please update the activities again? 's been 1 month since your last report. But anyway thanks a lot.
mar_heave : Which David is performing some testing on the server?
M. Bison :That'd be me. I'm testing ways to destroy the server. :eek:
M. Bison :That'd be me. I'm testing ways to destroy the server. :eek:
Ever played in PlagueFest server