Lieutenant Josh, post: 82006, member: 946 Wrote:One you and DK do not play on the server period, okay u don't get a say. Two, um gee i dunno, what happened to all the complaints about the old regular spawn in the usual sites thing. No matter what you do with the spawns someones gonna cry about it, people complained when the spawns were regular, people complain about these, also changing it now will ruin the server's population, as we consistently are getting about 20 ppl these days. Last time Matt made a major change to the server the whole population of players virtually disappeared(i.e adding the awp). Also maybe if you forced everyone who played on that particular server to join the forum, you'd get a better idea of what the players want, versus proposing arbitrary changes on a server neither of you play on. As i said before Riser is the exception, hes generally on, is skilled(although his Kd doesn't support that) and contributes to the DM, neither cedeeoo or DK here do, so both of your opinions carry no weight no matter how much you express them. Oh and DK try and think of something better to insult me with, one i'd probably kick your ass in the dm, two keep trying there boy-o.

I hate Ced for telling about this thread.

I'm just going to go ahead and quote this statement, as it seems to be the most relevant of all of your replies.

In regards to your first statement.

Quote:One you and DK do not play on the server period, okay u don't get a say.

Completely untrue. Ced is an admin, he gets a say. He helps manage the servers and as admins it is our responsibility to update and make sure that the gameplay is fair and balanced for everyone. Just because you play on it a lot does not mean you can arbitrarily decide who can have a say and who can't.

Quote:Two, um gee i dunno, what happened to all the complaints about the old regular spawn in the usual sites thing. No matter what you do with the spawns someones gonna cry about it, people complained when the spawns were regular, people complain about these, also changing it now will ruin the server's population, as we consistently are getting about 20 ppl these days. Last time Matt made a major change to the server the whole population of players virtually disappeared(i.e adding the awp).

Someone is going to cry about it, can't make everyone happy, but I don't think it's going to change the server population.

Quote:Also maybe if you forced everyone who played on that particular server to join the forum, you'd get a better idea of what the players want, versus proposing arbitrary changes on a server neither of you play on.

I find that a lot, if not a majority of the players that play on the server play there because they want a deathmatch type gameplay, not a spawn killing, or camping gameplay. They just want to kill things.

Anyways, to address everything.

I voted two.

The reason as to why I don't frequent the D2DM server is because I consider that server to be a training server. If I need to warm-up, adjust to recoil, or try out new things, that's why I join the Deathmatch server. It's not a place where I want to encounter spawn-killing idiots, or people camping in pit. I just need a fast pace environment where I can acquire targets and train recoil and shooting patterns.

With that being said, the current system in D2DM is broken, for reasons previously stated above. Like I said before, Team Deathmatch is for frequent killing of enemies, not for camping/spawn killing. You work with a team to eliminate enemy players.

Quote:Doesn't matter, they'll get used to it. I've seen some bad players that hold a 2-3 KD just by camping in pit and the pavement beside it.. eventhough they miss 1 out of 5 of their shots. Deathmatch is about improving your gameplay and skill not doing the same fucking thing over and over again every round just to outfrag people.

That's pretty much it though. If I want to camp it's too easy to get insanely high K's, but it's not the purpose of the majority of people, and that's why a lot of good players won't frequent the DM server.

Edit: Oh, and for what it's worth. Don't try and settle your arguments over VoIP chat in game. No one wants to hear that, and we have a full server. It's annoying, continue to do it, and that will be the quickest way to get Perma-Muted there as well.