joker8baller Wrote:In response to Rival:

So what if a player doesn't want to Rush with the AWP? I'm one of the dumber people that do, but I feel comfortable with my skills to be effective in supporting my team. The AWP is commonly used as a weapon by one person to completely shut down a certain area, and that is the meaning of a sniper rifle.

In my eyes, the awper is an essential part of the movement of the team. If Ts are rushing, the awper should offer them support by moving with that squad and remaining slightly behind the players with rifles, so they can offer up suppressing fire whilst the other team members use grenades and rifles to effectively push forward to the target site. On CTs, the awper should move with the weaker squad to offer a bigger amount of support for the defense. Camping is not acceptable.

joker8baller Wrote:I also don't see the problem with not wanting to die because they have the AWP. It's a legitimate strategy and one that is quite useful. When you have 6 guys, and it's you and you have an AWP, you're a lot better off saving your AWP then running in and possibly getting 1-2 people.

I am more referring to the people that hear the bomb being planted and run away from the bomb site, when they have ample time to strike and defuse. One man with an awp and a deagle can effectively dispatch a few enemies whilst the remaining team members move forward to go for the defuse. Lots of times I have had the awper cover me whilst I run in for the defuse, and it works perfectly.

joker8baller Wrote:Being awpless, and being unable to use any weapon is also a legitimate reason. Some players only use the AK, M4, or other weapon because that's the only gun they can use. As long as they're having fun, the server is doing the right thing. The AWP isn't the best of rushing weapons, and it isn't one you should be rushing with.

If the only weapon you can use is an awp then I feel very sorry for you, because you're missing a huge amount of the game by limiting yourself to a fairly shoddy weapon. It benefits you greatly to be proficient with several different weapons. What if the awp is unavailable? What do you do then? Maybe it's just the way I learnt to play the game, by only ever buying a deagle and picking up various weapons to save money for those hard rounds.

joker8baller Wrote:Forcing everyone to drop AWP's isn't going to help team balance or game play in the server. In fact, it'll probably decrease the number of regulars, and other players who consistently like to use the AWP for more than 3+ rounds in a row. We're already limiting the AWP, we shouldn't have to limit the AWP to a specific time... It ruins the fun in the server, and it will not help in teambalance in anyway shape or form.

What about those awp hoggers that constantly camp out and annoy people? I think you lose way more players to ragequitting with that, than you would if the awp was rotated around the team.

joker8baller Wrote:I just don't see where you're coming from. If a player is good enough to be able to keep the AWP without dying, or he's able to survive the round with the AWP regardless of the outcome of the match, he should be able to hold onto the AWP.

If the player ignores the objective, then they have no right to keep anything. People get slayed for ignoring objectives, I find no mercy to those who ignore it just to keep a gun.

joker8baller Wrote:Why are we singling this sole person, this awper, to have a chance to lose his gun? Where does it stop? Should we stop player that 1 deag amazingly well, to one Deagle every 3 rounds?

I am singling out the awper because there is only one of them per team. It's easy to be singled out when you're the only one. Secondly, I am sure you would have a different tune if you were on a team where a terrible awper kept purchasing the awp, round after round, and kept ignoring the objective to hold onto the weapon. Since "terrible" is relative, this term could apply to anyone.

And no, since deagles are available for everyone and not limited to one per team, everybody has the exact same chance to get those 1 deags, or at least practise enough to be able to get those kinds of kills, so its completely fair for an amazing deagle player to own the map. Also, since the deagle is nowhere near as powerful as the awp, you're point is completely invalid.

joker8baller Wrote:This isn't a better style of gameplay, it's designed to handicap other players so newer players have a chance. Why would we do such a thing? They get better through playing against great players, and the regulars in our server demonstrate that. We're still running full servers, so it's obviously not a big problem.

How does getting killed over and over again by the same awp hogger make you a better player? Also, I think you're missing my point. If a player is bad, they will not have enough money to buy the awp, leaving the good players with the chance to buy it, if they want to. It's just purely for the sake of rotating the awp around the players that actually have enough skill to be able to buy and use the awp, you know?

I'll give you an example. Myself, Parik, CENTRAL and My Mom are all on a team, and we are the top 4. We all want to awp, but Parik keeps hogging the awp so we can't buy it. With the new limitations in place, Parik would only be able to purchase it for 3 rounds before myself, Central or Mom would be able to buy it. You may laugh at my example, but it's actually happened, and it's been extremely frustrating since both Parik and Central hog the awp and refuse to complete the objective, whereas My Mom is an amazing awper who can rush and complete the objective with no problem.

Sorry for my long posts, but I don't think people are fully understanding me. I feel like you are against me because you are the people that are the awp hoggers (I know Ownage is, for sure), and you don't want it to change because then your style of gameplay would be out the window, and god forbid you'd have to learn to use another weapon.


Whilst I was typing this , 5 new replies were posted, so I feel that I have been forced out of the conversation unintentionally. In all fairness, I really don't care too much, I just think it's sad that some people can only awp and suck with every other weapon. That's your own problem though, so I am just gonna back out of this now whilst I still have a little sanity. Thanks for reading my posts though, no hard feelings to anyone that I may have offended, I love you all