Re: Space Shuttle Enterprise files again

silly Wrote:I partially agree with masterful, I see it as a morally righteous thing to do (deposing a cruel dictator, whose power they helped to consolidate). But I don't like how they've unfairly capitalized on Iraq's oil.

Spartacus Wrote:No country has the moral authority to make such a call.

I don't agree that no country has the moral authority to depose another country's genocidal dictator and remove the associated regime.

Spartacus Wrote:That's what the international community is for.

I think that the nature of international politics often results in choices that are not necessarily the most "morally righteous" choices.

Spartacus Wrote:And the Bush Adminstration pushed the Iraq War agenda without approval from the UN. That war was illegitimate.

Apparently Bush and his fellows used WMD propaganda in order to begin the war, and it seems that they were quite interested in stealing some resources from Iraq as well (not to mention that they've been in Iraq for a very long time now). I have a problem with all of those things.

However, law is generally concerned with fairly enabling the best interests of its subjects. So bypassing law in this case isn't something I have an issue with, provided that the war in Iraq was in the best interests of the Iraqis (and it is not quite clear that it is). The action that I'm condoning is the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime (as I think it was a good thing for the Iraqi people).

MindHACKer Wrote:2- All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered."
& by Peaceful doesn't mean declaring wars on other members country's & invading their land, & stealing form their Oil reserves.

Mindhacker, I'm not supporting the idea of America stealing Iraq's oil, nor America's extended military occupation of Iraq (provided that the people of Iraq genuinely can take care of themselves).

But, do you really think that every conflict can be peacefully resolved? Sometimes things need to be fought for (imagine what would have happened if nobody stood up to the Nazis).