Mr.Tea Wrote:Maybe you should quote quote them.

joker8baller Wrote:Solution: Get better.

No, seriously. One of the best ways of getting better is by playing people that are better than you. Teams are never going to be completely even, a team is always going to be slightly better. Yet, that's not always the winning factor, the winning factor is when a team works together. A pub team full of shitty's understanding how to play will beat 3-4 players that are great... it's going to be a slaughter for the first few guys, but if you push through then you're set.

Good players like playing with good players as well. It's just something you're really not going to stop. Once you find a group of players that you can gel with, that understand your playing strategy, it's something you want to keep doing. Especially if you're a strong group of friends. I play to have fun as my primary goal, winning as my secondary, unless it's a scrim. I'd rather be playing with my friends then some annoying idiots, so preventing that is only going to anger me.

With that being said, I feel as if a lot of the older regulars and better players regularly hit autobalance more than actually choosing teams. Stacking isn't a major problem as it is right now, and I don't feel like it can ever be change to truly make even teams. The only possible solutions is to make an algorithm to properly balance teams, but at that point, you're interfering with the game mechanics so much, you're "noob-ing" / ruining the game.

Yes, teams should be decently fair, but there needs to be a limit of how far we go. You really do get better by playing better players and facing harder odds.  I don't feel like it's a problem worth solving, or even needs solving... Players needs to get better by playing more, and with the amount of non-steam players that we have on the servers, it's not worth catering to their needs since they're newer players than those that have played for years.

TLDR. Get better, stacking isn't that bad of a problem on the servers. You only get better when you play against people better than you, etc.

silly Wrote:True

trueplayer Wrote:Some thoughts.

I have seen good players being accused of team stacking upon joining the game on the middle of the map. It's like they have to wait for available slot in another team to join or wait for the next map, so they can be cool with you, raging about unfairness. Another thing I've heard - "you just joined this team because it will be switched next round and you will go CT on Aztec", or "you just joined CT on aztec, Stacker", so what do you want from good players now, should they just quit? I know we used to have issues with team stackers before we implemented team switching plug-in, even after it, it was a bit unfair due to a bad timing, but it was recently fixed. The only form of map stacking I see is when players intentionally join back to another side after teams got switched, but don't worry about this one, it's very rare, just leave it up for admins to deal with.
Bottom line, if you can't get a kill, don't look for someone guilty in this, work harder to get better.

silly Wrote:Thanks.

silly Wrote:

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seem to find difficulty squeezing logical thoughts through

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brain when they do not match with

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already held opinions (or

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just pretend that that is the case).

silly Wrote:just a selective response

silly Wrote:I'm sorry, it's me.