M. Bison, post: 70182, member: 359 Wrote:Not to pick on Mr.Tea, but I can't even fathom how his % of kills by awp is a staggering 42%.

Probably because I play to AWP, I came to wL because it has AWP enabled. If you look at my break down it is. 56% AWP, 13% DEAG, and 9% m4/AK on Office Server; 42% AWP, 17% AK, 15% DEAG, 12% M4 on POP Maps. The servers I frequented over the last 7 years, were unrestricted AWP or 2xAWP 1xAuto per team. I would rather save my Cash and buy a DEAG, because I know with time and patience I will be able to buy an AWP.

It is also easier because I tend to join/switch to the losing team If I switch to your team, I am going to AWP and try to help you win. Most likely, if you want to AWP and you can't, switch to the harder team. It is not rocket science, but then you wouldn't be winning would you? I usually start on the hard side (Yes, time swap still favors the easy side due to quickly amassing money it is not a 50/50split), save money, and/or switch if my side is continually beating the other side.

I can show you a demo from a day ago when I was doing full buyout (DEAG, AWP, ARMOR, NADEs) from hitting "B" "D." I was 9 for 15, there were close to 30 ppl playing. I will not recognize nor believe that people don't have a chance to buy the AWP. Its a cop out and a load of poop.

On a daily basis, I am offered the AWP a few times, often from people I don't know. I almost always turn it down, but that would go against the portray AWP horders out there. It encourages begging and petty playing. I tried to give an AWP off to a player yesterday and I was chased around by two other yahoos trying to steal it.

I'm sorry if you can't buy the AWP. I'm sorry that whenever I try to buy it I get it with a 180s ping. FYI Sub100 pingers typically can beat me out on the AWP buy. My delay doesn't effect how quickly I may buy weapons, but how do I get the AWP? I always try to get and I don't quit. I don't heckle people when they get over me and I don't cry when I don't get it. I play, save, and try again.

When I join a CS:S server and there are hockey rules, restrictions, all_Talk on, etc etc, I leave. Like most seasoned Counterstrike players I like to play it the way I have for almost the last decade. I don't like excessive weapon restrictions, I like friendly fire on, and I like 40ppl servers. 2 out 3 not bad.

I didn't/still don't see anything wrong with the old way. And people who have came into the forums to vote agree (70% like the old way or more AWPs). Yet we are still going to pursue it. I know you are good with code and can do magic with the servers, Bison. I would suggest you implement these ideas in the pistol/GunGame...soon to be dead server. It would be no problem for regulars to join to populate and do a test run. I am sure there are enough on POP Maps and 24/7 world to help out.

I think these proposed parameters are unnecessary and weaknesses greatly outweigh the strengths. You're going to do what you're going to do and I don't think its a good move. I played 45 days on your servers under the old rule and never saw an issue. All it took was one jack rabbit to post something in chat, it make into the forums, and an instant Good Idea response from people that do not AWP on the servers. Same thing happen with the time reduction making it near impossible to do objectives on the hard sided maps. VietCong (infamous troll) suggested it, no vote, boom the change. I see a gradual but similar thing happening now.


Blah blah blah, when changes come if people like it they will stay. If they don't they will leave. You would be more likely to lose more players than gain new players by implementing radical changes.

silly, post: 70104, member: 2152 Wrote:You're still both missing the point. It doesn't matter if you haven't individually experienced difficulty buying the awp on these occasions. The fact of the matter is that virtually only one person can have it per team; and granted that there are at least 3 or 4 people, on average, who want to use the awp on a team of 10 (probably an understatement) those other players are being consistently short-changed. I'm usually one of those players (despite being a fast buyer).

We aren't missing the point. There is no point. Times it is hard to buy AWPs and times it is easier to buy AWPs. Yet I still get the AWP? I am smart and I save my money to buy the AWP. I have it on round 3 on losing team and round 2 on winning team. Why? Because I don't get greedy, buy weapons/armor. I save what I like to do. People are pushing for the more "fair" hugs and kisses gameplay. I know you need hug....sorry I am not going to give it to you. If you can't take an AWP, you probably don't deserve it. How about we do a plugin, where it is displayed on a silver platter to people when they can't buy it for 5 rounds.