(Mar 02 2017, 05:17 AM)Ben- Wrote:

(Mar 01 2017, 09:23 PM)blackknight Wrote: Hey why top RWS for Captains?

Since we know who the leaders are why not whoever organizes the tourney have a dialogue about who they think would be the best captains?


And teams, why not let whoever wants to play in, and sit down together and figure out some fair teams? 

Like yeah, people wanna play with friends, I don't see why we couldn't do that and maintain balance.

Of course the higher end players would have to play apart,  like I'm thinking of Ghoul and Bill they need to be captains if they're gonna play and they can't be on the same team that's ridiculous.

TLDR : Im proposing to make 2 big tournaments (classic) per year and a smaller ones (drafts) in between.

Depending on what we want to do as a community, if we want more people to participate, or wanna copy paste esea, or if we want small events now and then, we need to decide on a or multiple formats.

Personally 2 or 3 big classic tournament a year, with prize pot and else, would be great. 1 Mini-tournament (This 1) in between the big ones, where everybody got to play and know each other could be nice too.

Top Rws players as cap, also means every team (players) got a chance to win vs all good players go together and 1-3 teams got a chance to win.

Last tournament top4 = 4 highest rws teams overall, top8 = 7 highest rws teams overall. If RWS isn't somewhat redistributed a lot of players won't even participate because TEAM AAA, AAA and AA, are the only ones with chances to win the whole thing.

Sadly i cant say here is the top20 rws during last tournament and point out how obviously high rws players were almost a guaranteed top8-4, well top5 for rws was : (Me, Loopz, billnose, ghoul, Taylor Swift) = guess which teams were in the Finale ?

That's just my 2cent in broken english, an other solution i thought about was to make 2 tournament, main (or restricted) and open for people who just wanna have fun, so we could separate the serious teams (and ex-league) from the rest. But that wouldn't work currently cause most good players arent active or stopped playing.

Or we could make a classic tournament, but where good teams would break off on purpose and not play with who they want, which would suck for them.

If you want to make this more inclusive then you could just allow people to join a huge pool of players (no teams yet) and then draft captains from the top 50% of RWS players (this excludes shitties) and then allow the captains to take turns choosing players from the pool (obviously in a circular fashion --- ex. 1st cap, 2nd cap, 3rd, 4th, then back to 1 etc). This would allow players to choose their own friends and also allow for an interesting strategic dynamic of disrupting team compositions. The only issue is that they could ghost using 3rd party software, which would mean a stricter admin overwatch. Obviously the drawing will be made publicly so that no behind the scenes work goes on.

On another hand, if you look at the tournament format you can see that most actual tournaments have players of relatively similar rws together, but this community is so small that it is noticeably polarized. There are to many shit players, and too little good players. The fact is that tournaments like this for small communities will never really be balanced, there will always be that team or two that has odds of winning.

If you enter as a team - problem occurs that the teams will be noticeably polarized.
If you enter as an individual and do captains draft, like I mentioned - problem happens that if someone doesn't like someone else on the team they will whine or not play, which would lead to a high drop out rate.

In this case there is no "happy medium", most "ex league" players are too stuck in the past to want to enjoy playing the game with someone that is not good. they will complain continuously and the game will eventually not be fun. The same goes for several things in the real world, for example you have a really nice friend and he wants to play with you in a game at the park but you know hes not a good player so you decide to keep him out. Same thing here, if you want to please every little kid here, you will never have a real tournament. You either keep the really good players out or you keep the really bad players out. In the end it wont matter since there are such few a players that can even be considered ex-league.

Its pathetic to see you try to find a happy medium with these people, because it shows you haven't noticed that a "good tournament" will never happen here.

If you choose to continue finding a way, know that in any case you take, there will always be people that complain, about their teams or other teams or team setup, or game bracket or number of teams or number of games etc.

Good luck