Feb 02 2012, 02:07 PM
I'm too bad at CS:S to be labeled as a stacker.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
Bloodlust Hero Wrote:I'm too bad at CS:S to be labeled as a stacker.Confirming.
Just sayin'.
Mr.Tea Wrote:Completely disagree with the "justified rule" ignoring an admin. Trying to lawyer it up in a video game.
Mr.Tea Wrote:All of the admins on the servers are here because they have been deemed trustworthy/mature to use good judgement in enforcing the serversYes.
Mr.Tea Wrote:1 rule being exploiting the game. Another rule being exploiting the map. Consistently joining ct on aztec on t italy is exploiting a weakness of the map to your advantage.I made two points, one of which was that players should not be punished for "ignoring admins", but only for ignoring justifiable rules. With the "ignoring admins" rule, players could get banned for not complying with virtually anything that an admin wanted them to do. It's like being able to be punished by a police officer for refusing to strip naked and do a back-flip. How can you not see the problem with this?
Mr.Tea Wrote:I disagree with saying that you can't balance certain maps because I have done it. It just takes the right mix of good and bad players to create a fair round. I usually try to guilt trip a stacking friend and a lot times it just takes that 1-personality to get a team to win on the hard side.Seems possible to me.
Mr.Tea Wrote:On a daily basis it seems I refer players to come to war-lords.net when they accuse me of admin abuse. Before I was admin I would get switched all the time to balance the team. I thought it funny or a compliment. People get butt-hurt way to easy. Your not a good player if the only way you can do well is play the easy side of the map and get high kpds. Unfortunately, most of the Top 30 in wL stack.You may not mind being switched in that way but plenty of people do. Yeah, a lot of the time it is a compliment. Still, many would like to be in more control of what happens to them.
leo Wrote:I also wanted to share my input, since I was on mill at that time. You can clearly see that I said the teams weren't stacked. They weren't. T's had been making a consistent comeback over CT's for three rounds. I was on CT and found it challenging to push back the other team. CT's were in no way easily running over the T team.Looking at the original pic: http://rcupload.com/images/AEGq.jpg
M. Bison Wrote:When a team is leading though score, that doesn't necessarily mean it's stacked. I consider a team balanced when most players on both teams die every round. If admins were to continue to move players in order to force a victory on the losing team then we'd actually be the ones stacking teams.Makes sense, but there can be those few players on one team who can make a big difference (e.g. those boon/chun/jack monroe type players).
Matt Wrote:Team stacking management is up to the admins of the server and I will stand by ruplayer's decision in this, and any other admins in this case.I would think that we stand behind someone when they have a justified position, not because they're an admin.
We have tried auto team balancing features in the past and most of them don't work as well as you would think. I'm sure JackMonroe can vouch for this in the early days when it use to run.
Quote:While playing on the War-Lords gaming network you agree to abide by these rules. Any breaking of these rules will result in disciplinary action.
Team Stacking
People who intentionally teamstack to harvest points will have either their points adjusted, points completely reset, or gameme tracking disabled for their account.
Don't Cheat
People who cheat in online games are only cheating themselves. All cheating will get you is a permanent ban from the War-Lords gaming servers, no questions asked. Correspondence will seldom be entered into on this subject - just don't do it!
The following things are not permitted on the War-Lords servers and will result in swift punishment:
Hacking.
Exploiting the server or game.
Exploiting the map.
Ignoring game objectives.
Deliberate team killing.
Deliberate team flashing.
Mic and Chat spamming.
Inappropriate sprays. Shock sprays and hardcore porn is not allowed.
Inappropriate language or names (General cussing in moderation is allowed).
Impersonating a Admin.
Linking to cheat, shock or inappropriate websites.
If you're unsure about anything ask an admin.
Mr.Tea Wrote:Disagree completely with you Silly. Refer to MOTD:What about it? I don't think you understood what I was saying.
Quote:While playing on the War-Lords gaming network you agree to abide by these rules. Any breaking of these rules will result in disciplinary action.
Team Stacking
People who intentionally teamstack to harvest points will have either their points adjusted, points completely reset, or gameme tracking disabled for their account.
Don't Cheat
People who cheat in online games are only cheating themselves. All cheating will get you is a permanent ban from the War-Lords gaming servers, no questions asked. Correspondence will seldom be entered into on this subject - just don't do it!
The following things are not permitted on the War-Lords servers and will result in swift punishment:
Hacking.
Exploiting the server or game.
Exploiting the map.
Ignoring game objectives.
Deliberate team killing.
Deliberate team flashing.
Mic and Chat spamming.
Inappropriate sprays. Shock sprays and hardcore porn is not allowed.
Inappropriate language or names (General cussing in moderation is allowed).
Impersonating a Admin.
Linking to cheat, shock or inappropriate websites.
If you're unsure about anything ask an admin.
Mr.Tea Wrote:Read older abuse threads to see that admins don't and aren't aloud to get away with bloody murder, i.e. justified-is just a lie to harass admins and do what you want. (you is not directed personally at Silly just players that don't like "authority")I gather you're trying imply that I am the same? If you're not then no worries, but if you are, you are misrepresenting me, because that's not my intention at all.
Mr.Tea Wrote:If you don't like rules play on private servers or "free" servers with no MOTD/Admin. Most servers have rules to "control" players behaviors in the GAMEMisrepresenting me. I don't have a problem with justified rules (all of those rules in the MOTD are fair), and nor do I have a problem when an admin follows those justified rules. I have a problem when people give the reason that someone was banned as "ignoring an admin", instead of "ignoring justifiable rule".
Mr.Tea Wrote:I interpret your suggestions as to make admins "gun shy"/restricted to what they are able to do. We are highly scrutinized on a daily basis. We are one of the few severs that are "player rights focused" meaning that we hold admins accountable for their actions/decisions. We aren't the 1%, "the man," "the system," or whatever authority that people gripe about.Misrepresenting me again. I don't see you as "the system" or anything like that, as a whole, I just see you as a group of people who are trying to fairly run gaming servers.
Mr.Tea Wrote:Feeling de ja vu in this thread. Please refrain from drawing this out into a philosophical discussion.It was your choice to respond to this thread.
-[ex]iSpy- Wrote:when i join server, i look into the score board and join the losing team. i increase 8-12% the chance of team to win.hmm 8-12%?
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