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Why after waiting 40 min in sub list does a newcomer join and get in before me? Seems kind of ass backwards ... Either make it a list based on who was first or base on it on rws. Really makes it hard to want to play there when that happens.

I seriously know what you mean .... i used to wait sometimes 1 or 2 full games if i wasnt starting pugs earlier in the day, because of my RWS. I know bison put that system to try to keep it balanced when people are leaving and give reasons to people to get donator status .... but at some point its ridiculous, especially if you take into account new players of which the 8.77 rws is very inaccurate either because its way too high or way too low (had adreN play here a couple days ago .... lets say 8.77 is 1/3 of that player).

That being said, if lets say griz leaves at 18 rws it makes total sense that the highest rws available in spec subs first to try to "save" the pug (Some times we are lucky and the balance it somewhat maintained).

Same for a lower RWS player leaving, it make sense for the lowest RWS available to sub in first without raping the pug balance.

Also, RWS priority is out of the window, the second the pug is over so usually you dont wait more then 1 game.

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I see three ways you can somewhat compensate/fix that on your end without bison changing anything :

- Instead of waiting 40 mins in spec with probably 2-4 other specs, leave and try to make an other pug with said specs.

- Get sub priority with the donator status .... When i donated it fixed 50% of my waiting in spec issues (i say 50% cause i was still waiting for lower RWS donators to sub first).

- If you are a complete nerd try to connect earlier and start the first pug or the 2nd pug server ... first arrived first served is true in that case.

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Only way i can see bison changing anything about it would be to not prioritize low RWS and new players over average players.

But maybe he wants new players to get in first so they get their first experience in CSS pugs fast instead of sitting in spec for over 10-15 mins. making them leave and probably losing said new player interest in (wL).

And also the balancing right now is raped by leavers, so if we change that on the long run pugs will turn out even more unbalanced on average, cause the rws stacks will be created faster in theory.

Have a good time on (wL)