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#41
Like previously stated, i was interested to see if there was a link between having a high hsp/acc% and manually banned hackers. So ill showcase my findings on this post.

These are all the manually banned hackers since 26 December 2016 from PUGS only.

1 johnleemur ACC 21.979% / HSP 25.258%
2 local weaboo trash ACC 19.896 % / HSP 10.806%
3 Ilse Koch ACC 16.129% / HSP 42.000%
4 ninjalauu ACC 15.319% / HSP 16.351%
5 wyxz ACC 17.065% / HSP 26.331%
6 Wax ACC 34.982% / HSP 23.232%
7 horrorkidd ACC 24.228% / HSP 34.314%
8 rain. ACC 22.454% / HSP 20.148%
9 Gabe ACC 26.878% / HSP 13.472%
10 exe ACC 18.341% / HSP 18.748%
11 Gobu ACC 21.606% / HSP 20.121%
12 F1nzor ACC 13.182% / 19.967%
13 Zeko ACC 14.000% / HSP 28.571%
14 money ACC 24.739% / HSP 32.394%
15 Pastor Brown ACC 29.148% / HSP 5.803%
16 amplifieR ACC 22.088% / HSP 27.879%
17 Venom ACC 14.649% / HSP 11.872%
18 Vitamin C ACC 16.211% / HSP 19.563%
19 hillr ACC 17.857% / HSP 35.572%
20 Yung Garbage ACC 21.080% / HSP 20.000%
21 dzb ACC 21.465% / HSP 42.353%
22 curv3 ACC 31.429% / HSP 19.749%
23 eraserhead ACC 22.415% / HSP 18.667%
24 Ken2k ACC 24.561% / HSP 10.204%
25 JestenPawl ACC 11.198% / HSP 12.819%

For an Average of ACC 20.92 % / HSP 22.25 % / RWS 13.66

(RWS not precise, since many players were banned when the 8.77 given from the start still has influences)

Which might doesn't look high, but remember that there is 3 very low RWS and 12 intermediate RWS in the list, which lowers the total averages % (cheat or no cheat, if you aint good it still shows).

Without low RWS : ACC 22.04% / HSP 22.50 / RWS 14.39

Without low and IM RWS : ACC 23.15 / HSP 20.44 / RWS 17.94 (HSP decreases a little cause they tended to use more awp)

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If we compare them to the top5 RWS players it would look like the following

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All Cheaters : Average of ACC 20.92 % / HSP 22.25 % / RWS 13.66

Top5 RWS Players : Average of ACC 20.80 % / HSP 18.11 % / RWS 19.04

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Without low RWS : ACC 22.04% / HSP 22.50 / RWS 14.39

Top5 RWS Players : Average of ACC 20.80 % / HSP 18.11 % / RWS 19.04

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Without low and im RWS : ACC 23.15 / HSP 20.44 / RWS 17.94

Top5 RWS Players : Average of ACC 20.80 % / HSP 18.11 % / RWS 19.04

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Lastly averages are not everything in the statistical world :

22 Cheaters out of 25 have at least 1 stat over 18% (either HSP or ACC)

13 Cheaters out of 25 have both stats over 18%

Only 4 Cheaters out of 25 doesn't have at least 1 stats over the top5 players average (excluding rws).

But if we compare each individual cheaters to their legit peers of similar RWS. Only 1 cheater out of 25 would not be overrepresented in at least 1 stats (acc%/hsp%)

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A little reminder ...

Be careful when you look up these kind of stats (Source : https://war-lords.net/forum/thread-17335-page-2.html)

AWPers can have a high accuracy and be 100% legit (highest legit accuracy with awp only is 56.494%)

Pistolers tends to also have a high accuracy and hsp and be 100% legit (pistols best legit accuracies are around 30% and hsp a little higher)

Less common but :

Glock and Famas burst = fires 3 bullets but count as 1 in our weapon system, so you can achieve the double of normal accuracies while bursting.

Shotguns = fires 9 pellets but count as 1 in our weapon system, so you can achieve crazy high ACC% with it, check my stats with M3 and XM1014 for example (https://war-lords.net/pugs/players/27392773/weapons).
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#42
To translate: most cheaters are bad.

They need excessive accuracy and hs% even beyond what professional players manage during normal gameplay in order to win a comparable amount of PUGs.

This boils down to fast reflexes and good aim (which is what aimbot/triggerbot primarily compensates for) being important, but not being the most important factors for winning. If you lack experience, then you'll lack intuition and good strategic thinking (basically situational awareness) which is necessary to win. In addition, these cheats won't magically teach you how to properly use nades/flashes/smokes, which are very potent when used properly.

Note: high accuracy and hs% are not reliable indicators of cheating. It's entirely possible to inflate these two stats and make them comparable to spinbot cheaters, but it will rape your RWS/ADR in a fairly significant manner. Ben- played hs-only for several weeks and managed to far exceed these particular cheaters, but at heavy costs to his other stats.
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#43
good interesting posts
As your leader i will not force you to give up relationships and play cs instead, that's on you. if i gotta push you to play the game u want to make a living out of, then this shit aint for you.
#44
This is a statistical representation i made for fun while talking with bison on steam ... so might as well post it here !

Top 12 Fraggers


If Including KPG, ADR and RWS (cause they are the most relevant individual stats)

1 billnose  KPG 2  / ADR 2  / 5k 1     / 4k 1   / 3k 2     / RWS 1 = 8 pts
2 ghoul     KPG 1  / ADR 5  / 5k 2     / 4k 2   / 3k 1     / RWS 2 = 13 pts
3 loopz     KPG 3  / ADR 4  / 5k 6-8   / 4k 3   / 3k 3     / RWS 3 = 23 pts
4 Ben-      KPG 4  / ADR 6  / 5k 4-5   / 4k 4   / 3k 4     / RWS 6 = 28.5
5 Juniorc4 KPG 20 / ADR 1  / 5k 3     / 4k 6-7 / 3k 6     / RWS 4 = 40.5 pts
6 beah      KPG 5  / ADR 12 / 5k 12-18 / 4k 6-7 / 3k 5     / RWS 12 = 43.5 pts
7 Netex    KPG 19 / ADR 3  / 5k 4-5   / 4k 5   / 3k 9     / RWS 5 = 45.5 pts
8 Bubbles   KPG 9  / ADR 8  / 5k 6-8   / 4k 12  / 3k 8     / RWS 7 = 51 pts
9 Kobe     KPG 10 / ADR 10 / 5k 6-8   / 4k 8   / 3k 11    / RWS 14 = 60 pts
10 SSnipey   KPG 6  / ADR 24 / 5k 12-18 / 4k 9   / 3k 10    / RWS 21 = 85 pts
11 Phoenix  KPG 12 / ADR 17 / 5k 9-10  / 4k 11  / 3k 12    / RWS 25 = 86.5 pts
12 taraN    KPG 31 / ADR 9  / 5k 9-10  / 4k 10  / 3k 14-15 / RWS 15 = 89 pts

If only including ADR (cause its the only individual stats related to rounds, not influenced by other players)

1  billnose  ADR 2  / 5k 1     / 4k 1   / 3k 2 = 6 pts
2  ghoul     ADR 5  / 5k 2     / 4k 2   / 3k 1 = 10 pts    
3  Juniorc4 ADR 1  / 5k 3     / 4k 6-7 / 3k 6 = 16.5 pts    
4  loopz     ADR 4  / 5k 6-8   / 4k 3   / 3k 3 = 17 pts    
5  Ben-      ADR 6  / 5k 4-5   / 4k 4   / 3k 4 = 18.5 pts
6  Netex    ADR 3  / 5k 4-5   / 4k 5   / 3k 9 = 21.5    
7  Bubbles   ADR 8  / 5k 6-8   / 4k 12  / 3k 8 = 35 pts    
8  Kobe     ADR 10 / 5k 6-8   / 4k 8   / 3k 11 = 36 pts          
9  beah      ADR 12 / 5k 12-18 / 4k 6-7 / 3k 5 = 38.5 pts      
10 taraN    ADR 9  / 5k 9-10  / 4k 10  / 3k 14-15 = 43 pts
11 Phoenix  ADR 17 / 5k 9-10  / 4k 11  / 3k 12 = 49.5 pts  
12 SSnipey   ADR 24 / 5k 12-18 / 4k 9   / 3k 10 = 58 pts    
 
If only including 5k/4k/3k's (cause we were talking about fraggers not who does the most damage per round)

1 billnose  5k 1     / 4k 1   / 3k 2 = 4
2 ghoul     5k 2     / 4k 2   / 3k 1 = 5    
3 Ben-      5k 4-5   / 4k 4   / 3k 4 = 12.5
4 loopz     5k 6-8   / 4k 3   / 3k 3 = 13  
5 Juniorc4  5k 3     / 4k 6-7 / 3k 6 = 15.5  
6 Netex     5k 4-5   / 4k 5   / 3k 9 = 18.5
7 Kobe      5k 6-8   / 4k 8   / 3k 11 = 26
8 beah      5k 12-18 / 4k 6-7 / 3k 5 = 26.5
9 Bubbles   5k 6-8   / 4k 12  / 3k 8 = 27
10 Phoenix  5k 9-10  / 4k 11  / 3k 12 = 32.5  
11 taraN    5k 9-10  / 4k 10  / 3k 14-15 = 34
12 SSnipey  5k 12-18 / 4k 9   / 3k 10 = 34

ps : 5k/4k/3k = all per game stats, and only showcased players leading in at least 2 of these categories.

data comes from the last post of that page : https://war-lords.net/forum/thread-17335-page-2.html

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